The One with the Podcast Expert, the Fantasy Author, and Super Bowl Predictions

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Introducing the "Best Podcast In Utah"
Radio Daybreak.

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Here are your hosts, Just Blane and Becks
Oh, yes.

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Here we go.

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Another episode.

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This could be the biggest one yet, Becks.

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We got the most guest.

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Yeah.

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Most guests we've ever had on.

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We got we got we got a author from
Daybreak right here.

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He's going to be on.

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We've got a podcast coach and we've got a
former NFL player and one of my buddies

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with him, too.

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We won't talk about him.

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You've been busy this week to save the
most.

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I'm kidding, but yeah, that's true.

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But that guy I'm talking about is Alex
Hardy, and he's a veteran in his own

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right.

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So don't get that too twisted.

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But what are you wearing?

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Is that a Radio Daybreak hoodie?

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Yeah, I got my new Radio Daybreak gear on.

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Hey, don't you worry.

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I got one for you, too.

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Oh, I can't wait.

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Can we buy this?

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Yes, absolutely.

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They will be available on our website
soon.

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Soon.

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So we got hoodies.

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hats, shirts, what we got?

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Yeah, we got hoodies, we got sweatshirts,
we've got the zip-ups, we've got t-shirts

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and hats, all kinds of swag.

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You guys gotta check out our website.

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I love it.

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So that's radioadaybreak.com.

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You can check out our new merch.

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I didn't want you over there being
envious.

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Yeah.

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Right?

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I love that.

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I got yours too, Blaine, I got yours too.

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All right, what else is going on?

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What did you do this week?

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Well, hello, the Super Bowl.

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Oh, Super Bowl's coming up.

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We're gonna talk about...

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the Super Bowl with our former NFL player
later on the show.

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And we're going to talk about the biggest
question of all.

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We're not even going to mention it now.

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We know what that is.

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No, don't give it away.

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It's not even about the game.

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You already know.

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But let's get to our first guest.

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We got Skylar from utahustlers.com.

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It's a podcast called Utah Hustlers.

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I got to ask him.

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We got to know where that name came from.

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Skyler, welcome to the show.

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Yeah, thanks for having me on.

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I'm excited to be here.

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This has been a little bit of a, I don't
know if I could say, should say dream or

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like desire to be on this podcast.

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Okay, so it took me forever to find a name
for Utah Hustlers.

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Cause usually how I name anything, whether
it's a side hustle business or a podcast,

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I just get everything out on paper or on
just like notes on my iPad.

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I'll just put down like 50 names.

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the weird ones, the good ones, and I'll
just mix and match things.

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And what I actually came up with was Utah
Built.

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And that was also going through asking a
couple other people.

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I was like, hey, that sounds cool.

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That's brandable.

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That's like something people want to know
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And I didn't see anything.

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And then I looked on YouTube and someone
had started that podcast, Nate.

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Y'all used that name like three months
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So I was just barely too late, but I think
it was a good thing because

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I think Utah Hustlers actually speaks more
to the audience because that's literally

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who the podcast is for.

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It's for the Utah Hustlers.

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Yeah.

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So it's for Utah entrepreneurs who have
started a business and need help taking it

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to 10 grand a month.

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And so that's where Utah Hustlers work.

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Like the people that are in that grind
that don't have money to build big teams

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yet and to have a huge production for
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It's the entrepreneur that's wearing all
the hats, the marketing, the managing, the

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servicing, all that.

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So I wanted to help those people.

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become more successful because that's
where I'm at.

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That's where like when I started, that's
exactly where I was at.

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So I created the podcast I wanted to
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So I was like, I'm going to just interview
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trying to do and learn from them and I'll
share it with everybody else.

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So that's where the idea came from.

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I just wanted to help you to
entrepreneurs, you tell hustlers and.

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So jumping into that, what key advice do
you have for emerging podcasters?

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Because there's so many different
directions that when you're first starting

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this, a lot of different ways that you can
monetize your show, especially here in the

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Utah scene.

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So what expert advice do you have for
those emerging in this venture?

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The first thing I would tell anyone, any
emerging podcasters, people that want to

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start a show and think about monetizing it
later on is start with two goals.

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One goal for yourself.

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Like the selfish goal, if you got
everything out of this podcast you wanted,

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what would that be?

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Do you want to make money?

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Do you want like, and how do you want to
make money?

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Is that with sponsors?

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Do you want to do super chats on YouTube,
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Do you want to sell your own products and
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And so we got to be very intentional.

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It's like, Hey, what do you want out of
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Cause then we can set it up in a way that
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So that set that goal.

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And then you have to set another goal for
your listeners.

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What is your dream outcome for the
listeners?

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What are they going to get out of it?

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Because if we only set the goal for
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Probably won't explode because we're not
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trying to serve.

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So we want to set the goal.

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So for my podcast, Utah Hustlers, is I
want to help Utah entrepreneurs grow their

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business to 10 grand a month.

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But I want to be able to do that, like
help them do that within 12 months.

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So if people listen to it within six to 12
months of listening to every single

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episode and applying it, that's the key.

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It's not information that's the problem.

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It's the implementation.

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Got to have that action.

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If they apply it, then in six to 12
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business.

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So that was my goal for the listeners.

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Like I want the information I bring them
to be very specific and very helpful in

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helping them reach that goal.

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I love that.

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A lot of people out there say podcasting
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I have to laugh at those people.

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It's the same people that were saying
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Now I did this.

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I've done this for 20 plus years.

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This ain't going nowhere.

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It's not going anywhere, man.

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You hear this.

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You hear podcasting is dead or radio is
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And then you see the news.

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Smartless.

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$100 million deal going to serious exam
for mammoth Joe Rogan.

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Hate him or love him.

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The guy just signed a $250 million deal
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There's money.

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There's money out there, man.

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But I feel like it always gets a bad rep,
man.

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You want to speak on that?

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Like, what are you thinking?

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Is it going to die?

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I don't think it'll die.

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I think it's exploding now more than ever.

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So in COVID.

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2020, 2021, that's when it really exploded
because everyone was at home.

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They're like, all right, I'll start a
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And I think it's just been growing from
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And the great thing about a podcast is it
gives you a lot of content.

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So I see a lot of people out there, they
want to do affiliate marketing.

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They want to grow their own coaching
businesses or just their own businesses in

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general.

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And everyone knows if you're on social
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So the more we can post on social media
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more we're going to make.

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And so with the podcast, the reason why I
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not to discourage people from starting,
like do it.

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Cause there's a lot of people, it's a lot
more work than, than your, uh, like the

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other social media platforms.

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Still do it.

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Don't don't let that scare anyone.

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But so with the content you can produce
from it.

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So like you record a podcast with the
guest.

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You can get you have the full interview.

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So let's say it's an hour.

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So that's a YouTube video.

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It's also a podcast that goes on Spotify,
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everywhere.

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Absolutely.

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You can make I make probably 10 to 15
social media clips from those episodes.

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So there's another 10 to 15 pieces of
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You can create a blog post from it.

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I actually use AI to create my blog post.

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So I have AI tools that transcribe the
entire interview.

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And then it turns it into a blog post.

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So there's a blog post.

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And that helps with SEO, getting people to
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And then after a while, after you've
produced a podcast for, let's say, 50, 100

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episodes, you can actually take those
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your book.

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So just so much content you can get from
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And I didn't even talk about like,

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taking little one liners from it and
posting it on X, X Twitter threads.

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So there's just, there's so much content
you can get from it.

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So I think that's why it's exploding more
than ever is because you can do one thing,

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but have content for two to four weeks.

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Exactly.

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Absolutely.

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So that recycle, yeah, repurpose, reuse,
work smarter, not harder, right?

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Yeah.

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How was the repurpose keying in radio?

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We were literally talking about that
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Yeah, we were.

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I'm always looking for ways to reuse.

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content because you never know who missed
it the first time or you never know What

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it might catch on this time like it's
always it always comes across different to

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see a lot of that content now What led you
to want to do this?

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I what's your personal journey to get
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Yeah, so when I was in high school, I knew
I wanted to be an entrepreneur I knew I

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didn't want to go work for someone else
because my dad was an entrepreneur and I

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saw that but like the results he was able
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he was able to take us on a few more
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And I saw some of my friends going on and
I really liked that.

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So I was like, I want to be able to do
that for my family.

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So I started out 18 knocking doors, doing
window washing.

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And I did that for about a decade.

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But as I was doing it, I was learning all
these skills like, okay, what works with

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knocking doors?

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Does flyers make more sense?

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Does knocking on doors make more sense?

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So anyway, I was doing that.

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Tried, failed, tried, failed, bought this,
bought that, lost money here, made money

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there.

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And so I did that for a long time.

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and started a bunch of different side
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I bought and sold cars for a while.

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That's actually funny because my parents,
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any intention of keeping it if it didn't
sell, but if it did, great.

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But they're always like, oh, it's not an
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Like you won't make money on a car.

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And I made like, I think the most I made
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grand in two weeks off of a car.

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And for 19, 20 year old, I was like,
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Yeah.

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Oh, 1920 ready to retire.

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That's right.

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Exactly.

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So you're the very definition of a
hustler.

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So your own personal journey, it sounds
like, started off early with this hustle.

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I would buy stuff off eBay, sell it
locally on KSL, Facebook Marketplace.

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But as I was doing the window cleaning, I
would listen to podcasts nonstop, just

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like, yeah, I might as well learn while
I'm working, making money.

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after so long of listening to them, I
would find myself asking the questions

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that the host was asking their guests.

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Like I would ask it and then they would
ask it immediately.

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And I was like, okay, maybe, maybe I
should be a podcast host.

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And I don't know if that was just like
some special intuition I had.

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I don't think so.

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I think anyone can do that.

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But after a while, this idea of like
starting a podcast came into my mind

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because it's also going to personal
development seminars, did a bunch of

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one-on-one coaching, a lot of different
things like that.

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And so I bought all the equipment.

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It sat in my closet for about three
months.

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And then I was just learning off of
YouTube.

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The University of YouTube.

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That was, it took so long because
everything's so unorganized on YouTube.

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So it took four hours to learn.

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But eventually I learned it, started with
a friend, and started a couple different

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shows since then.

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But that's how it got started, my idea for
a podcast.

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And eventually it led into starting Utah
Hustlers, which is what it is today.

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Nice.

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Now you've got a physical studio too,
right?

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Yeah, yeah.

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So I have a studio in South Jordan that I
record in.

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But yeah, I built it for me and it was
just like, hey, if other people want to

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use it, come use it.

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So I built it with kind of some
customizations in mind with the lighting

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and banner you can put up and things like
that.

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And recently built out another podcast set
for people to use.

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And that's the one I'm sitting in now.

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And a lot of people are liking it more.

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I'm liking it a little more because it's a
little brighter.

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But.

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Hey, we saw those pictures.

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Yeah, we're seeing it now.

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But we saw those pictures on social.

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It's nice.

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We got some nice digs.

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So if you get anybody out there that wants
to come down there and check it out, what

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do they got to do?

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Best way is probably go on Instagram or
Facebook.

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And just type in Utah Podcast Studio.

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Hit me up there.

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And yeah.

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You can also find out more at
utahustlers.com.

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That's Skyler's website.

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And I noticed that you're on a short break
from your podcast.

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When can we expect it to come back?

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Let's see, January, February, March.

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I think I was shooting for March is when
I'll have it back.

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So I'm still doing interviews, still
editing.

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I just wanted to get more ahead of
schedule.

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And I was spending so much time on the
podcast that my business is hurting the

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business a little more.

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I need to just put a little more time into
that.

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And so I was like, okay, well, this is a
lot of information.

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I have so much to apply for myself and
hopefully the listeners do too.

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So I was like, okay, I'm gonna take a
little break.

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I'll keep doing the interviews and just
get more ahead of schedule.

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So that way I don't feel so.

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Stretched in?

313
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Yeah, stretched in, yeah, exactly.

314
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Well, you and I haven't been there,
Skyler.

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You are talking our language right now.

316
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That's great stuff, man.

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And me and you had to be in touch because
it sounds like we got a lot of crossover

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here.

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So I want to help you help me help you.

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We can help each other.

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I'd love it.

322
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Right, we always talk about collaboration
and this is a business.

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So you talk about having your systems,
your tools, your people, your leverage in

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place.

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Hey.

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Totally.

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I just mentioned two shows that are worth
$350 million combined.

328
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It is a business.

329
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Yeah, well, you don't even need to make
$350 million to be a successful podcaster.

330
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If you just did 1% of that, you'd be doing
better than most people.

331
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Better than most, because here's a crazy
set I saw, man.

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You've probably heard this.

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And if not, you've got to pat yourself on
the back.

334
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But 44% of all podcasts, three episodes,
and they're done.

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That's it.

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Three and done.

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That's wild, though, to think that.

338
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There's that many podcasts out there and
on top of that, 44% fail, like they're

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done.

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So you gotta, I like what you said in the
beginning, basically treat it like a

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business before you start.

342
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You can't think, oh, well maybe something
will happen.

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No, no, no.

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If you think that way, you're gonna end up
in that 44% if you ask me.

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And it is done, but it is a lot of work.

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Can I give your listeners a little like
guide on how to start your podcast for

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free like today?

348
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Yes, please.

349
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Okay, so.

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First thing to get it out to on either,
like go start a YouTube channel, but you

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can get on YouTube and Apple, Spotify, all
that's free.

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Go to Spotify for podcasters, just Google
it, it'll be the first result.

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You can set up your podcast account, it'll
be connected to your Spotify account.

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And then from there you download the app
on your iPhone or Android, and you can

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start recording straight from your phone.

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Talk about something you're passionate
about, and you can just start for free.

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And then if you're like, hey, this is
something I want to do more, then.

358
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Hey, I'd love to help you.

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You guys probably have great advice for
podcasters too.

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So it's easy to start for free.

361
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You just got nowhere to go.

362
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I love it.

363
00:14:02,964 --> 00:14:09,069
All right, that was Skyler from Utah
Hustlers, the podcast, utahustlers.com.

364
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Man, that's a great interview.

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He had some great insight.

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I loved it.

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I loved his passion.

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Yeah, I hope his podcast goes far.

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We're going to actually be in touch a
little bit because we said we got some

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things in common we got to talk about.

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So for sure, we're going to go down there.

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Yeah, we are.

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I hope to like do some more collaboration
with him.

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Super cool guy.

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00:14:28,847 --> 00:14:33,248
I love his message that he's out there,
you know, helping other people and getting

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the word out to, you know, small business
owners, especially.

377
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Yeah, right here in Utah.

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So that's, that's big stuff.

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But later on, we're still going to get
into some super bowl talk with our

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correspondent down at radio road, Nick
Ferguson, former Denver Bronco.

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But let's get to our next guest.

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Daybreak's own author.

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We're going to ask him about these books.

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Stephen Klauffenstein, welcome to the
show.

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Welcome Stephen.

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So great to have you.

387
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Now, Stephen, tell me about this, this
first book.

388
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Yeah, totally.

389
00:15:03,894 --> 00:15:08,536
So, so yeah, so I started in college and I
basically spent years writing this first

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book that I ever wrote, which had a number
of titles and I ended up never publishing

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it.

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I went through the whole process of
writing it, adding it to some agents.

393
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And ultimately I had to just be like,

394
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I think I learned a lot from this process,
but it's not like it needs too many fixes

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to be workable.

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And so I basically then took everything
that I learned from the first book and

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poured it all into my next book, which
actually was published and I was called

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the Shadow Watch, which is an epic
fantasy.

399
00:15:42,539 --> 00:15:43,880
Yeah, you got it too.

400
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I've got it over here.

401
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I've got it.

402
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Yeah.

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So let me tell you, let me just read from
the back cover here.

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the description of what the book is.

405
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I'm not gonna go through the whole thing,
but ripped from her homeland and sold for

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a handful of coins, 17 year old Tori grew
up a slave in a foreign empire.

407
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All her life surrounded by injustice and
cruelty, she ached for the chance to fight

408
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back.

409
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This is a dope book right here.

410
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Tell me what this book is.

411
00:16:11,017 --> 00:16:13,938
Just in a little bit, what would you
compare this book to?

412
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Like something else?

413
00:16:15,319 --> 00:16:16,240
Sure.

414
00:16:16,240 --> 00:16:20,221
I think the closest comparison is the
Shadow and Bone series on them.

415
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Oh, yeah.

416
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It's a fantasy series that's done pretty
well.

417
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And readers have, I've had many readers
say they've gotten some shadow and bone

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vibes from this.

419
00:16:30,382 --> 00:16:34,604
So it's like that with a little bit of
Game of Thrones and a little bit of Hunger

420
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Games mixed in there.

421
00:16:36,764 --> 00:16:37,765
Oh, man.

422
00:16:37,765 --> 00:16:39,946
That's about a revolution and some things
like that.

423
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So this is right up my alley.

424
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I need a copy.

425
00:16:42,647 --> 00:16:44,788
Maybe a signed copy even would be good.

426
00:16:44,788 --> 00:16:45,508
I'm going to throw that up.

427
00:16:45,508 --> 00:16:46,888
Signed copies.

428
00:16:47,029 --> 00:16:47,849
I might know a guy.

429
00:16:47,849 --> 00:16:49,374
Hey, let me.

430
00:16:49,374 --> 00:16:52,135
I gotta read the last sentence on here
because this is going to tell you even

431
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more and get you more hyped up about this
book.

432
00:16:54,057 --> 00:16:55,138
Oh.

433
00:16:55,138 --> 00:17:00,581
Welcome to the breathtaking world of the
Shadow Watch, where sorcerers are hunted,

434
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monsters rise out of myth, and the fate of
all hangs on love and betrayal.

435
00:17:05,945 --> 00:17:07,446
Wow.

436
00:17:07,446 --> 00:17:09,507
This, this is my type of book.

437
00:17:09,548 --> 00:17:13,670
I love that he went and told us his
inspirations and because I like, I like

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that.

439
00:17:13,811 --> 00:17:17,493
But look, I'm a creative, we're all
creatives here.

440
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And

441
00:17:18,602 --> 00:17:20,402
I don't think any idea just comes out of
nowhere.

442
00:17:20,402 --> 00:17:23,603
You get inspiration from all these places
and you put it together, and that's what

443
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makes it special to you and your identity.

444
00:17:26,644 --> 00:17:27,624
Tell me about this panther.

445
00:17:27,624 --> 00:17:28,704
Absolutely, I think.

446
00:17:28,704 --> 00:17:30,665
Oh, go ahead, go ahead, go ahead.

447
00:17:30,665 --> 00:17:34,626
No, I was just gonna say, yeah, I think
anybody who thinks that they're like

448
00:17:34,626 --> 00:17:39,747
coming up with the brand new thing,
everybody enjoys things, it's making

449
00:17:39,747 --> 00:17:43,248
inspiration from all the sorts that they
love.

450
00:17:43,248 --> 00:17:47,454
And your unique take on it is what you
ripped to the table for the story.

451
00:17:47,454 --> 00:17:52,295
Yeah, so if our listeners want more
information, how do they find your books?

452
00:17:52,295 --> 00:17:53,856
Where can they find you?

453
00:17:53,856 --> 00:17:55,997
And tell us a little bit where you're at.

454
00:17:55,997 --> 00:17:57,718
Socials, we talked about that.

455
00:17:57,718 --> 00:17:59,458
Amazon, yeah.

456
00:17:59,678 --> 00:18:03,160
Yeah, so I write here a pen name, Essay
Klopfenstein.

457
00:18:03,160 --> 00:18:07,622
And so my website's author Essay
Klopfenstein.

458
00:18:07,942 --> 00:18:13,384
And I'm on Instagram and Twitter and
Facebook and TikTok and all the social

459
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media under Essay Klopfenstein.

460
00:18:18,354 --> 00:18:18,554
there.

461
00:18:18,554 --> 00:18:22,036
And then the easiest way to find my books
is on Amazon.

462
00:18:22,997 --> 00:18:25,558
The ebooks are exclusive there, and my
audiobooks are everywhere.

463
00:18:25,558 --> 00:18:27,739
So if you listen to audiobooks on any
platform, you can probably find it.

464
00:18:27,739 --> 00:18:35,824
You can ask for them from the library and
things like that.

465
00:18:35,824 --> 00:18:35,924
Okay.

466
00:18:35,924 --> 00:18:36,244
Awesome.

467
00:18:36,244 --> 00:18:38,545
And your latest book is Guild War.

468
00:18:38,545 --> 00:18:41,767
It came out late last year, just released
late last year.

469
00:18:41,787 --> 00:18:44,628
It's the third book in your Pantheon
series.

470
00:18:44,628 --> 00:18:45,049
Is that correct?

471
00:18:45,049 --> 00:18:47,089
Yeah, that's right.

472
00:18:47,702 --> 00:18:47,862
Awesome.

473
00:18:47,862 --> 00:18:48,482
I love this.

474
00:18:48,482 --> 00:18:53,186
Let me let me let me shed a little light
on this Pantheon series for you The genre

475
00:18:53,186 --> 00:18:55,567
of book is called lit RPG.

476
00:18:55,567 --> 00:18:59,089
That's a literary Roleplay game basically.

477
00:18:59,170 --> 00:19:05,794
So what that means is if you're familiar
with the video games the RPG video games

478
00:19:06,014 --> 00:19:11,158
and You got HP and MP all your hit points
Steven has actually put that into the

479
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book.

480
00:19:12,139 --> 00:19:13,860
So this is a type of genre.

481
00:19:13,860 --> 00:19:16,781
This is cool to me Steven This is this
takes a lot of

482
00:19:16,822 --> 00:19:17,582
That's awesome.

483
00:19:17,582 --> 00:19:19,823
There's a lot of brain power to put this
together, man.

484
00:19:19,823 --> 00:19:24,186
Tell me, like, how did you get all, like,
where did, where did that inspiration come

485
00:19:24,186 --> 00:19:24,366
from?

486
00:19:24,366 --> 00:19:27,367
Was it actually RPG video games?

487
00:19:27,367 --> 00:19:27,828
Yeah.

488
00:19:27,828 --> 00:19:28,868
Yeah, for sure.

489
00:19:28,868 --> 00:19:32,170
So, so I've had this idea for a long time.

490
00:19:32,170 --> 00:19:34,991
So little RPG is an up and coming genre.

491
00:19:34,991 --> 00:19:39,674
That's been, that's a sub genre of fancy
that has especially basically emerged out

492
00:19:39,674 --> 00:19:41,995
of the publishing community.

493
00:19:41,995 --> 00:19:45,177
So basically big time publishers aren't
publishing this stuff, but they're just

494
00:19:45,177 --> 00:19:46,297
starting to.

495
00:19:46,486 --> 00:19:49,828
pay attention because there's people
making millions of dollars writing these

496
00:19:49,828 --> 00:19:50,529
books.

497
00:19:50,529 --> 00:19:55,233
And so there's a couple of series, like
they launched in the top 10 on Amazon

498
00:19:55,233 --> 00:19:57,094
every time and stuff like that.

499
00:19:57,094 --> 00:20:00,377
So now they're starting to take notice
because people want this type of book.

500
00:20:00,377 --> 00:20:03,379
But yeah, so it takes it.

501
00:20:03,379 --> 00:20:10,105
I think of it as basically like you get,
you get a little older and you had tons of

502
00:20:10,105 --> 00:20:14,228
time and tons of fun playing video games,
and then you get to a stage where you have

503
00:20:14,228 --> 00:20:14,969
a lot less time.

504
00:20:14,969 --> 00:20:16,009
You can't like.

505
00:20:16,070 --> 00:20:18,470
a game comes out today's finished plane.

506
00:20:18,671 --> 00:20:19,371
Some people can, but...

507
00:20:19,371 --> 00:20:20,772
Like, even if they're gonna miss.

508
00:20:20,772 --> 00:20:22,772
Yeah, planes still can.

509
00:20:23,833 --> 00:20:25,854
But, so this kind of feeds into that.

510
00:20:25,854 --> 00:20:29,775
Basically, you take it, a lot of it's like
game nostalgia and stuff.

511
00:20:29,775 --> 00:20:31,816
For me, one of my favorite games was
Skyrim.

512
00:20:31,816 --> 00:20:32,456
Oh yeah.

513
00:20:32,857 --> 00:20:35,638
And Assassin's Creed, especially the
earlier ones.

514
00:20:35,638 --> 00:20:41,580
And so, I poured a lot of, probably my
enjoyment for those two games in

515
00:20:41,580 --> 00:20:44,361
particular, into this series.

516
00:20:44,662 --> 00:20:50,946
the setting is like a city filled with
assassins, thieves, things like that.

517
00:20:50,946 --> 00:20:57,530
Even the cover of Den of Thieves, it's
very Assassin's Creed inspired.

518
00:20:57,530 --> 00:21:01,833
Yeah, I literally sent my designer, I was
like, here's some Assassin's Creed images.

519
00:21:01,833 --> 00:21:05,456
I want people to see this cover and be
like, and it like triggers some Assassin's

520
00:21:05,456 --> 00:21:05,596
Creed.

521
00:21:05,596 --> 00:21:06,456
Recognizable, yup.

522
00:21:06,456 --> 00:21:09,058
Yup, yeah.

523
00:21:09,058 --> 00:21:10,659
So that was totally what I was going for.

524
00:21:10,659 --> 00:21:14,501
The actual storyline of the series is,

525
00:21:14,966 --> 00:21:20,729
Very, very different from Assassin's
Creed, but just some of the gameplay, some

526
00:21:20,729 --> 00:21:24,772
of the action and stuff still touches on
those vibes.

527
00:21:24,772 --> 00:21:31,015
And there's some dashes of just some kind
of classic fantasy stuff mixed in there

528
00:21:31,015 --> 00:21:31,396
too.

529
00:21:31,396 --> 00:21:32,837
World of Warcraft.

530
00:21:32,837 --> 00:21:34,277
Assassin's Creed.

531
00:21:34,277 --> 00:21:34,498
Yeah.

532
00:21:34,498 --> 00:21:40,081
Yeah, you've got all your typical fantasy
creatures, orcs and kobolds and different

533
00:21:40,081 --> 00:21:41,261
things like that.

534
00:21:41,358 --> 00:21:43,679
thrown in there too so it's a mishmash.

535
00:21:43,679 --> 00:21:47,741
I'll tell you what I'll tell you what
Steve I'll tell you what I gotta get you

536
00:21:47,741 --> 00:21:48,941
on game related.

537
00:21:48,941 --> 00:21:53,644
I was gonna say here it comes and we're
gonna get we'll get real deep in there and

538
00:21:53,644 --> 00:21:58,526
start talking about stuff because I'd like
to I'd like to talk to you about other RPG

539
00:21:58,526 --> 00:22:04,489
games man like The Witcher and Fallout and
even Final Fantasy Chrono Trigger one of

540
00:22:04,489 --> 00:22:05,998
the greatest of all time right there.

541
00:22:05,998 --> 00:22:09,700
Yeah, I can nerd out all day, but we're
not going to do right here.

542
00:22:09,700 --> 00:22:11,822
Listen, we shut down that stereotype.

543
00:22:11,822 --> 00:22:13,082
You were no longer on that.

544
00:22:13,082 --> 00:22:13,343
That's right.

545
00:22:13,343 --> 00:22:13,683
Yeah, I know.

546
00:22:13,683 --> 00:22:17,045
I love it.

547
00:22:17,045 --> 00:22:19,107
I do want to have you on game related.

548
00:22:19,107 --> 00:22:19,887
We're going to do that.

549
00:22:19,887 --> 00:22:21,989
We'll get more books.

550
00:22:21,989 --> 00:22:23,369
We'll get more on that.

551
00:22:23,690 --> 00:22:27,412
But for now, appreciate you jumping on the
show with us.

552
00:22:27,412 --> 00:22:28,493
This is great.

553
00:22:28,493 --> 00:22:29,774
Yeah, absolutely.

554
00:22:29,774 --> 00:22:30,334
All right.

555
00:22:30,334 --> 00:22:35,237
Great interview with Stephen Klopfenstein
from right here in daybreak.

556
00:22:35,822 --> 00:22:37,483
Author of the Shadow Watch.

557
00:22:37,483 --> 00:22:39,384
That's his latest book.

558
00:22:39,505 --> 00:22:40,245
That's a great book.

559
00:22:40,245 --> 00:22:42,227
I got him right here still.

560
00:22:42,227 --> 00:22:43,548
I need to borrow your copy.

561
00:22:43,548 --> 00:22:44,309
Guilty.

562
00:22:44,309 --> 00:22:45,650
I still have not read it.

563
00:22:45,650 --> 00:22:48,032
I need to borrow your copy.

564
00:22:48,032 --> 00:22:51,294
No, I can't let you borrow these because
these are signed.

565
00:22:52,135 --> 00:22:53,737
You'll hold on to them if I let you borrow
these.

566
00:22:53,737 --> 00:22:54,437
You know where to find me, Blaine.

567
00:22:54,437 --> 00:22:55,018
You know where to find me.

568
00:22:55,018 --> 00:23:00,943
Yeah, but he's got the Shadow Watch series
and then he had the Pantheon series, Den

569
00:23:00,943 --> 00:23:01,343
of Thieves.

570
00:23:01,343 --> 00:23:04,665
You can find both of those books out there
wherever you find books.

571
00:23:04,990 --> 00:23:05,630
I'm ready for this.

572
00:23:05,630 --> 00:23:06,330
It's gonna be fun.

573
00:23:06,330 --> 00:23:06,790
This is out.

574
00:23:06,790 --> 00:23:11,172
We're about to go out to our Super Bowl
correspondence Alex Hardy and former

575
00:23:11,172 --> 00:23:15,894
Denver Bronco Nick Ferguson Down there at
Radio Road.

576
00:23:15,894 --> 00:23:17,615
Thanks for coming on the show guys.

577
00:23:17,615 --> 00:23:21,797
Hey guys, so good to have you Appreciate
you guys love being a part of the family.

578
00:23:21,797 --> 00:23:22,277
Yeah.

579
00:23:22,277 --> 00:23:23,777
Yeah, it's good to see you guys man.

580
00:23:23,777 --> 00:23:29,379
So Nick You actually at one point where
was coaching?

581
00:23:29,660 --> 00:23:32,821
Helping coach for the San Francisco 49ers
and this was back in what?

582
00:23:32,821 --> 00:23:34,201
2017 ish

583
00:23:34,222 --> 00:23:36,502
2017 and 2018.

584
00:23:36,783 --> 00:23:40,245
So that was the beginning of this team
that we're seeing in the Super Bowl now.

585
00:23:40,245 --> 00:23:44,407
So how much credit do you want to take for
getting these guys into the Super Bowl?

586
00:23:44,787 --> 00:23:46,228
All of it, take all of it.

587
00:23:47,149 --> 00:23:48,229
No, you know what?

588
00:23:48,229 --> 00:23:50,650
I'm not going to take any of the credit.

589
00:23:50,691 --> 00:23:53,692
The only thing is I'm disappointed.

590
00:23:53,732 --> 00:23:59,235
I'm disappointed that I didn't get a
chance to experience any of this because

591
00:23:59,235 --> 00:24:02,477
if you know my career, we got there 2005.

592
00:24:03,214 --> 00:24:08,875
2006 season played against Pittsburgh
Steelers and we lost it home and Everyone

593
00:24:08,875 --> 00:24:12,656
thinks that when you lose world all the
coaches got to come back all the players

594
00:24:12,656 --> 00:24:15,697
are going to come back We're gonna make
another run It's gonna be sort of like

595
00:24:15,697 --> 00:24:20,779
Patriots and Tom Brady and Bill Belichick
and it was anything of the sort So I'm a

596
00:24:20,779 --> 00:24:27,021
little bitter that I didn't get a chance
to Experience so right now I live by

597
00:24:27,021 --> 00:24:30,801
carelessly through John Lynch for former
teammates

598
00:24:30,818 --> 00:24:37,343
Kyle Shanahan and also his father, Mike
Shanahan, who I talked to on an everyday

599
00:24:37,343 --> 00:24:37,844
basis.

600
00:24:37,844 --> 00:24:39,164
So yeah, man.

601
00:24:39,185 --> 00:24:43,168
And if you wanted to know right away who I
was rooting for, I just told you.

602
00:24:43,168 --> 00:24:44,450
Yeah, Becks, what you got for him?

603
00:24:44,450 --> 00:24:45,631
I don't know, Blaine.

604
00:24:45,631 --> 00:24:47,332
I mean, I'm just like so overwhelmed.

605
00:24:47,332 --> 00:24:49,234
I don't even know how to handle this.

606
00:24:49,234 --> 00:24:51,996
Like our family is just gonna be a massive
rivalry.

607
00:24:51,996 --> 00:24:54,118
Like we're about 50%, 50%.

608
00:24:54,118 --> 00:24:57,261
I don't know if I should be telling you
this, Nick, but we've got some KC fans in

609
00:24:57,261 --> 00:24:58,230
my house.

610
00:24:58,230 --> 00:25:00,610
We've got some long time Niner fans in our
house.

611
00:25:00,610 --> 00:25:02,611
We're trying to convert the one to the
other.

612
00:25:02,611 --> 00:25:03,851
I'll let you figure out what's what.

613
00:25:03,851 --> 00:25:09,513
You talked to, well, you mentioned Brady
and those Patriots always being back.

614
00:25:09,513 --> 00:25:12,294
That's what the Chiefs have sort of
become, right Nick?

615
00:25:12,294 --> 00:25:15,175
Where they're just, they're a constant in
the AFC Championship.

616
00:25:15,175 --> 00:25:19,496
They don't have the same success quite
yet, but they're underdogs for the first

617
00:25:19,496 --> 00:25:22,737
time, I think, ever in their third, fourth
Super Bowl appearance.

618
00:25:22,737 --> 00:25:23,597
I mean-

619
00:25:23,958 --> 00:25:29,180
Before Nick answers it, I gotta say I get
mad when I keep seeing underdog, and you

620
00:25:29,180 --> 00:25:31,961
hear it's their fourth Super Bowl in the
last five years.

621
00:25:31,961 --> 00:25:34,242
If that was anybody else, that's a
dynasty.

622
00:25:34,462 --> 00:25:35,263
That's not underdog.

623
00:25:35,263 --> 00:25:35,623
That's a dynasty.

624
00:25:35,623 --> 00:25:36,463
They're not my patriots yet.

625
00:25:36,463 --> 00:25:37,304
They're not my patriots yet.

626
00:25:37,304 --> 00:25:39,365
Nick, what do you think about that?

627
00:25:39,365 --> 00:25:41,866
Do you think KC lives off of being the
underdog though?

628
00:25:41,866 --> 00:25:44,207
Are they getting a kick out of that or
what?

629
00:25:44,207 --> 00:25:47,748
Well, yeah, they do because consider what
you guys just said.

630
00:25:47,748 --> 00:25:50,389
When you think about Patrick Mahomes in
Kansas City,

631
00:25:50,454 --> 00:25:55,737
They have been in this moment a lot and
being a Broncos fan living here in Denver.

632
00:25:55,877 --> 00:25:56,938
I'm sick and tired of it.

633
00:25:56,938 --> 00:25:58,059
I'm just telling you.

634
00:25:59,440 --> 00:26:02,802
I mean, it's getting on my damn nerves,
right?

635
00:26:02,802 --> 00:26:06,625
But here's the reason why they're
considered underdog because remember at

636
00:26:06,625 --> 00:26:11,269
the start of the season and even towards
the end of the same season, how awful

637
00:26:11,269 --> 00:26:16,813
their receivers were and now Kansas City,
they're winning games with their defense

638
00:26:16,813 --> 00:26:18,433
for because...

639
00:26:18,510 --> 00:26:20,391
of their defense, not their offense.

640
00:26:20,391 --> 00:26:24,893
So that's why they're viewed as being
underdogs and have been thus far.

641
00:26:24,893 --> 00:26:29,156
Well, you're forgetting that Travis Kelsey
is playing his best football for the end

642
00:26:29,156 --> 00:26:30,056
of the year.

643
00:26:30,056 --> 00:26:33,998
I'm sure it has nothing to do with his
relationship that has completely

644
00:26:33,998 --> 00:26:35,959
overshadowed the NFL scene.

645
00:26:35,959 --> 00:26:38,701
People ask me, what's the storyline of the
Super Bowl?

646
00:26:38,741 --> 00:26:40,362
It has to be Taylor Swift.

647
00:26:40,362 --> 00:26:45,925
There is an effect that it is having, not
just on the NFL landscape, the game within

648
00:26:45,925 --> 00:26:47,170
the lines, but.

649
00:26:47,170 --> 00:26:50,213
people talking about football because
Taylor's there.

650
00:26:50,213 --> 00:26:51,413
That's special.

651
00:26:51,574 --> 00:26:55,598
I'm glad you asked that Alex, you know, I
thought Blaine was throwing that to me to

652
00:26:55,598 --> 00:26:58,721
talk about Tay-Tay, but no, I'm safe, I'm
safe.

653
00:26:58,721 --> 00:27:00,483
No, I love, look, I love Taylor Swift.

654
00:27:00,483 --> 00:27:02,265
I love what she's been doing for NFL.

655
00:27:02,265 --> 00:27:08,031
I love for how she's been exposing some of
these misogynist people on social media,

656
00:27:08,031 --> 00:27:09,292
because what?

657
00:27:09,292 --> 00:27:10,678
They're getting upset because.

658
00:27:10,678 --> 00:27:14,420
They see a girlfriend and boyfriend being
happy on television.

659
00:27:14,420 --> 00:27:15,740
She's enjoying a football game.

660
00:27:15,740 --> 00:27:18,522
She gets shown for less than 60 seconds a
game.

661
00:27:18,742 --> 00:27:21,584
It's not new that they show celebrities at
games.

662
00:27:21,584 --> 00:27:22,344
Come on.

663
00:27:22,344 --> 00:27:28,928
And she's brought in over $300 million for
Kansas City, for that ball club.

664
00:27:28,928 --> 00:27:29,968
That's crazy.

665
00:27:29,968 --> 00:27:31,089
That seems low.

666
00:27:31,209 --> 00:27:32,390
That was like last week.

667
00:27:32,390 --> 00:27:33,510
This number could be higher.

668
00:27:33,510 --> 00:27:35,411
I guarantee you this will be one of the
most watched Super Bowls.

669
00:27:35,411 --> 00:27:37,172
Hey, is she gonna make it though?

670
00:27:37,172 --> 00:27:39,334
She's got that show in Tokyo.

671
00:27:39,334 --> 00:27:40,354
Of course.

672
00:27:40,354 --> 00:27:44,016
Oh yeah, you know, her flight time is
pretty tight, I hear.

673
00:27:44,016 --> 00:27:45,937
What do you think about this Taylor Swift
stuff, though?

674
00:27:45,937 --> 00:27:47,138
Fer, what are you thinking?

675
00:27:47,138 --> 00:27:48,979
First and foremost, I have to say this.

676
00:27:50,200 --> 00:27:55,082
Now I can divulge to people that I listen
to Taylor Swift.

677
00:27:55,283 --> 00:27:56,883
Let's go.

678
00:27:57,844 --> 00:28:02,367
Being a black guy in Denver, that's not
what I'm supposed to listen to.

679
00:28:02,527 --> 00:28:06,149
So I can toss it out there.

680
00:28:06,149 --> 00:28:06,922
I do.

681
00:28:06,922 --> 00:28:13,686
happen to have her song Bad Blood on my
playlist because when I'm working out and

682
00:28:13,686 --> 00:28:18,069
I need to work into a lather and I'm
tired, I'm exhausted, I go automatically

683
00:28:18,069 --> 00:28:20,591
go Bad Blood and it gives me the energy.

684
00:28:20,591 --> 00:28:26,335
And the idea of Taylor Swift missing this
game, the NFL will not allow it because

685
00:28:26,335 --> 00:28:30,398
like you said, they generated so much
money because of her.

686
00:28:30,398 --> 00:28:33,100
Kyle's juice checks wife, right?

687
00:28:33,100 --> 00:28:35,841
Who made Taylor Swift's jacket.

688
00:28:36,102 --> 00:28:36,622
It's cool.

689
00:28:36,622 --> 00:28:42,386
It's really cool what she's doing with the
NFL That's why I'm like, yeah, man.

690
00:28:42,386 --> 00:28:43,867
It's about getting in where you fit it.

691
00:28:43,867 --> 00:28:47,070
And once again, here's what I'll do It's
the only thing I have said about Taylor

692
00:28:47,070 --> 00:28:47,270
Swift.

693
00:28:47,270 --> 00:28:52,594
That's negative Because the Taylor Swift
those ticket prices that mentioned earlier

694
00:28:52,594 --> 00:28:54,155
have now gone up.

695
00:28:54,155 --> 00:28:56,176
That's why What are those prices?

696
00:28:56,176 --> 00:28:57,517
Because yeah, what were they again?

697
00:28:57,517 --> 00:28:58,698
What's those prices?

698
00:28:59,238 --> 00:29:03,854
They were starting at probably by six
thousand and yes

699
00:29:03,854 --> 00:29:05,875
and they're starting to move up.

700
00:29:05,875 --> 00:29:08,356
So those prices are higher than the
giraffe ass.

701
00:29:08,356 --> 00:29:09,036
Yeah.

702
00:29:09,036 --> 00:29:11,738
Lane, I see you scowling over there, but I
wouldn't be surprised.

703
00:29:11,738 --> 00:29:14,359
I mean, we're rolling into the weekend
here.

704
00:29:14,359 --> 00:29:17,721
You know, they're gonna be way above and
beyond that.

705
00:29:17,721 --> 00:29:19,542
You might see me sitting up in Taylor's
box.

706
00:29:19,542 --> 00:29:21,603
I might get an invite to Taylor's box.

707
00:29:21,663 --> 00:29:26,766
But I think somebody did say that the NFL
would push the time of the game.

708
00:29:26,766 --> 00:29:27,847
I heard about that.

709
00:29:27,847 --> 00:29:29,788
They said they would push the, and I think
they would.

710
00:29:29,788 --> 00:29:30,168
Why wouldn't you?

711
00:29:30,168 --> 00:29:30,909
Think about it.

712
00:29:30,909 --> 00:29:32,918
It's not just pushing the time of the
game.

713
00:29:32,918 --> 00:29:39,521
but is making sure that Taylor, once
again, she's wealthy, so she can get on

714
00:29:39,521 --> 00:29:41,482
the private jet and get there on time.

715
00:29:41,482 --> 00:29:46,785
And oh, by the way, they will make sure
that there is a police escort to get her

716
00:29:46,785 --> 00:29:48,046
in her dress box.

717
00:29:48,046 --> 00:29:51,508
And here's how crazy Taylor Swift's mania
has been.

718
00:29:51,508 --> 00:29:56,971
When she went to the Jets game, now you
know that there's a Deadpool movie that's

719
00:29:56,971 --> 00:29:57,591
coming out.

720
00:29:57,591 --> 00:29:59,452
Hugh Jackman is in the movie.

721
00:29:59,552 --> 00:30:02,433
He had both he and Ryan Reynolds were in
the...

722
00:30:02,462 --> 00:30:05,604
in the box with her, but they didn't show
those two guys.

723
00:30:05,604 --> 00:30:07,385
They showed her.

724
00:30:08,266 --> 00:30:12,670
And as a comic book fan, I was a little
upset with that because I wanted to see

725
00:30:12,670 --> 00:30:13,330
you.

726
00:30:13,330 --> 00:30:14,692
I wanted to see you.

727
00:30:14,692 --> 00:30:15,973
I love that, man.

728
00:30:15,973 --> 00:30:18,915
And one more thing about her, she just won
the album of the year.

729
00:30:18,915 --> 00:30:23,999
Who goes to the Grammys, goes up with
their acceptance speech and says, oh, by

730
00:30:23,999 --> 00:30:28,242
the way, for the last two years, I've been
working on an album even better than this.

731
00:30:29,043 --> 00:30:30,264
I loved it, man.

732
00:30:31,025 --> 00:30:31,926
It was baller.

733
00:30:31,926 --> 00:30:33,246
Baller, dude, man.

734
00:30:33,786 --> 00:30:35,587
What is it, the Tortured Poets Department?

735
00:30:35,587 --> 00:30:36,987
I can't wait to hear that.

736
00:30:38,568 --> 00:30:39,869
I'll be the first to say it.

737
00:30:39,869 --> 00:30:42,630
I am a T-Swizzle fan all the way.

738
00:30:42,630 --> 00:30:43,930
I love what she's doing for the NFL.

739
00:30:43,930 --> 00:30:47,252
Honestly, the rest of these leagues need
to, the rest of the leagues need to start

740
00:30:47,252 --> 00:30:49,073
getting her at their games.

741
00:30:49,073 --> 00:30:52,574
It's almost like how Lionel Messi did it
for the MLS.

742
00:30:52,834 --> 00:30:54,635
All them ticket prices have gone wild.

743
00:30:54,635 --> 00:30:58,817
I know he's a player, but you've got the
same type of effect going on with just

744
00:30:58,817 --> 00:31:00,237
somebody about being it at the game.

745
00:31:00,237 --> 00:31:01,366
Man, they better not break up.

746
00:31:01,366 --> 00:31:02,727
I'll be devastated.

747
00:31:02,727 --> 00:31:03,567
No, no, no.

748
00:31:03,567 --> 00:31:04,808
See, no, no.

749
00:31:04,808 --> 00:31:08,231
See, Blaine, you're looking at it the
wrong way, right?

750
00:31:08,231 --> 00:31:10,873
See, with them being together, it's a good
thing.

751
00:31:10,873 --> 00:31:13,335
If they were to break up, guess what?

752
00:31:13,335 --> 00:31:15,197
We'd all get better music.

753
00:31:15,197 --> 00:31:15,717
Oh, that's true.

754
00:31:15,717 --> 00:31:17,699
We're getting some fire album.

755
00:31:17,699 --> 00:31:21,122
And Travis Kelsey probably put up some MVP
numbers after taking out the aggression on

756
00:31:21,122 --> 00:31:21,883
the field, you know.

757
00:31:21,883 --> 00:31:24,424
So I wouldn't doubt it a bit.

758
00:31:25,265 --> 00:31:28,168
You know, we'll listen to Tortured Poets
Society.

759
00:31:28,168 --> 00:31:29,489
Keep calling it Dead Poets Society.

760
00:31:29,489 --> 00:31:30,486
Yeah, I know.

761
00:31:30,486 --> 00:31:32,326
We'll listen to the tortured poets.

762
00:31:32,326 --> 00:31:37,369
And if she's out there writing about route
concepts and 88 over 87 over the middle of

763
00:31:37,369 --> 00:31:39,229
the field, we'll know there's blood in the
water.

764
00:31:39,229 --> 00:31:41,170
We know there are going to be problems
there.

765
00:31:41,811 --> 00:31:43,971
I know we're running a little short here.

766
00:31:43,971 --> 00:31:47,793
So just to wrap things, Nick, I want you
to pick who wins the game and wants to

767
00:31:47,793 --> 00:31:48,413
score.

768
00:31:48,413 --> 00:31:54,396
I am going to pick San Francisco because I
feel that Kyle last time they played, I

769
00:31:54,396 --> 00:31:55,796
believe it was 2020.

770
00:31:56,157 --> 00:31:57,874
They left some plays out there.

771
00:31:57,874 --> 00:32:02,198
and Jimmy Garoppolo, all he needed to do
is run on two plays, did run, and gave

772
00:32:02,198 --> 00:32:04,200
Kansas City the advantage.

773
00:32:04,200 --> 00:32:10,526
So I'm gonna go 49ers in this game, and
I'm going to say 28-21.

774
00:32:10,586 --> 00:32:10,807
Ooh!

775
00:32:10,807 --> 00:32:12,268
28-21.

776
00:32:12,268 --> 00:32:12,889
All right, I like that.

777
00:32:12,889 --> 00:32:14,069
What about you, Alex?

778
00:32:14,070 --> 00:32:17,593
Well, good content means hosts disagreeing
with each other.

779
00:32:17,694 --> 00:32:21,157
I'm gonna take the Chiefs, 23-17.

780
00:32:21,894 --> 00:32:27,477
It's amazing that the last pick in an NFL
draft is now a starting quarterback for a

781
00:32:27,477 --> 00:32:28,517
Super Bowl team.

782
00:32:28,517 --> 00:32:34,200
Brock Purdy would be one of the big
stories had it not been for the Chiefs or

783
00:32:34,200 --> 00:32:36,021
Taylor Swift or Travis Kelsey.

784
00:32:36,021 --> 00:32:39,923
But I think it's really cool and special
to see that Brock Purdy was here in

785
00:32:39,923 --> 00:32:41,844
Southern California after he was Mr.

786
00:32:41,844 --> 00:32:42,525
Irrelevant.

787
00:32:42,525 --> 00:32:47,628
Pick number 262 in the NFL draft now
starting in a Super Bowl.

788
00:32:47,628 --> 00:32:51,629
I think that's pretty special but still
not enough for the Kansas City Chiefs.

789
00:32:51,786 --> 00:32:55,567
And let's be real, Brock Purdy, he
couldn't even afford a ticket to the Super

790
00:32:55,567 --> 00:32:56,147
Bowl.

791
00:32:56,147 --> 00:32:56,387
No.

792
00:32:56,387 --> 00:32:57,188
Think about it.

793
00:32:57,188 --> 00:33:01,089
He's got room, he's a professional
quarter, he's a professional NFL player,

794
00:33:01,169 --> 00:33:02,270
and he has roommates.

795
00:33:02,270 --> 00:33:02,710
Roommates.

796
00:33:02,710 --> 00:33:05,491
Because he has to live in San, he has to
live in San Francisco.

797
00:33:05,491 --> 00:33:07,872
Are you kidding with rent out there?

798
00:33:07,872 --> 00:33:10,593
We know what real estate is like there.

799
00:33:10,593 --> 00:33:12,746
We got night-eth.

800
00:33:12,746 --> 00:33:15,647
You're making more money in real estate
here, Becks, than Brock Purdy's making out

801
00:33:15,647 --> 00:33:16,428
there on the NFL as a quarterback.

802
00:33:16,428 --> 00:33:17,288
Yeah, I'm in the life industry.

803
00:33:17,288 --> 00:33:22,911
Well, all right, Becks, let's ask you, who
do you got for the game?

804
00:33:22,911 --> 00:33:23,892
Or are you just watching for take two?

805
00:33:23,892 --> 00:33:26,173
I'm going to be in trouble either way I
answer.

806
00:33:26,173 --> 00:33:26,913
Either way I answer.

807
00:33:26,913 --> 00:33:28,875
But you know I got to go for my Niners.

808
00:33:28,875 --> 00:33:32,236
So I'm going to go for the Niners and
28-14.

809
00:33:32,577 --> 00:33:33,597
28-14 Niners.

810
00:33:33,597 --> 00:33:34,198
Blowout.

811
00:33:34,198 --> 00:33:35,338
Blowout alert.

812
00:33:35,338 --> 00:33:37,379
I think, man, I think it's going to be the
Chiefs all the way.

813
00:33:37,379 --> 00:33:39,721
I think it's going to be like 35-17
Chiefs.

814
00:33:39,721 --> 00:33:41,841
I'm just going to say that.

815
00:33:41,958 --> 00:33:43,739
I think it's gonna be, they look good,
man.

816
00:33:43,739 --> 00:33:44,439
I like them.

817
00:33:44,439 --> 00:33:45,339
I do like my homes.

818
00:33:45,339 --> 00:33:46,700
I like Kelsey.

819
00:33:46,700 --> 00:33:47,321
That's the thing too.

820
00:33:47,321 --> 00:33:49,622
Travis Kelsey was a hell of a player
before Taylor Swift.

821
00:33:49,622 --> 00:33:50,622
Let's just be real about that.

822
00:33:50,622 --> 00:33:52,303
He was great before that.

823
00:33:52,303 --> 00:33:55,425
I love when people try to take away from
either one of them and you're like, no,

824
00:33:55,425 --> 00:33:55,685
no.

825
00:33:55,685 --> 00:33:57,326
They both had their own successes.

826
00:33:57,326 --> 00:33:58,247
Let them be.

827
00:33:58,247 --> 00:33:58,807
You know?

828
00:33:58,807 --> 00:34:02,049
Yeah, there's no touching Taylor's
numbers, but he just became, he just

829
00:34:02,049 --> 00:34:05,390
passed, you know, speaking of the night,
he just passed Jerry Rice with the most

830
00:34:05,390 --> 00:34:07,472
touchdowns, catches in playoff history.

831
00:34:07,472 --> 00:34:09,253
Like that is, that is special.

832
00:34:09,253 --> 00:34:11,230
You have to get to the playoffs.

833
00:34:11,230 --> 00:34:16,211
And they may have added playoff games, but
he is accomplished in his own right.

834
00:34:16,352 --> 00:34:18,813
That's true definition of a power couple.

835
00:34:19,113 --> 00:34:23,295
Next time we do this, I got to give you
guys a little secret, right?

836
00:34:23,295 --> 00:34:23,695
Okay.

837
00:34:23,695 --> 00:34:25,796
How about, how about this for a tease?

838
00:34:25,796 --> 00:34:32,238
The next time we talk, I'll tell you
exactly how to stop Travis Kelsey.

839
00:34:32,939 --> 00:34:35,400
Oh, so the Niner, the Niner.

840
00:34:35,400 --> 00:34:39,558
So you're pulling for your Niners and
you're going to tell them after the game.

841
00:34:39,558 --> 00:34:40,558
No, I'm not going to tell him.

842
00:34:40,558 --> 00:34:42,740
I mean, I know coaches on the staff.

843
00:34:42,740 --> 00:34:47,283
So all I can do is text them, hey, make
sure you pay attention to these things.

844
00:34:47,283 --> 00:34:48,324
I love that.

845
00:34:48,324 --> 00:34:49,484
All right.

846
00:34:49,484 --> 00:34:51,506
Don't tell us ahead of time there because
you don't want to get the game plan.

847
00:34:51,506 --> 00:34:55,328
So text that out and then we'll talk to
you again and we'll see how it worked out.

848
00:34:55,328 --> 00:34:57,590
But I appreciate you guys jumping on with
us.

849
00:34:57,590 --> 00:34:59,551
It's Nick Ferguson, Alex Hardy.

850
00:34:59,551 --> 00:35:00,892
They got their own show right here.

851
00:35:00,892 --> 00:35:03,254
We don't even have a name for you guys to
show yet, but we will.

852
00:35:03,254 --> 00:35:04,715
It's just Alex and Nick.

853
00:35:04,715 --> 00:35:05,995
We just we had too much to say.

854
00:35:05,995 --> 00:35:08,117
We left the cat out of the bag.

855
00:35:08,117 --> 00:35:09,078
They don't need a name.

856
00:35:09,078 --> 00:35:10,819
They've got the name.

857
00:35:10,819 --> 00:35:12,260
Yeah, our name is Nick Ferguson.

858
00:35:12,260 --> 00:35:13,040
He's the name.

859
00:35:13,040 --> 00:35:13,621
That's true.

860
00:35:13,621 --> 00:35:16,363
No, you could just call us those guys.

861
00:35:16,363 --> 00:35:17,503
Those guys.

862
00:35:18,424 --> 00:35:18,964
I like that.

863
00:35:18,964 --> 00:35:19,805
Those guys.

864
00:35:19,805 --> 00:35:21,426
Here's those guys with us again.

865
00:35:21,426 --> 00:35:22,667
Appreciate you guys jumping on.

866
00:35:22,667 --> 00:35:23,728
This has been fun.

867
00:35:23,728 --> 00:35:26,529
The next time we talk to, we're going to
have Nick Ferguson's going to actually

868
00:35:26,529 --> 00:35:30,072
host his own relationship show here at one
point, too, because he gives great

869
00:35:30,072 --> 00:35:31,133
relationship advice.

870
00:35:31,133 --> 00:35:32,133
I'm not even kidding about that.

871
00:35:32,133 --> 00:35:32,674
He led me to my work.

872
00:35:32,674 --> 00:35:34,155
We've got to learn something new about
you, all right?

873
00:35:34,155 --> 00:35:34,635
I'm all ears.

874
00:35:34,635 --> 00:35:36,436
We've got to listen to him.

875
00:35:36,436 --> 00:35:38,578
Seriously, if it hadn't been for Ferg, I
might not have.

876
00:35:38,578 --> 00:35:39,378
ended up with Lindsey.

877
00:35:39,378 --> 00:35:39,958
No, no joke.

878
00:35:39,958 --> 00:35:40,858
That's wild.

879
00:35:40,858 --> 00:35:43,179
I don't even know that story.

880
00:35:43,179 --> 00:35:43,359
Oh, yeah.

881
00:35:43,359 --> 00:35:44,120
There's my tease.

882
00:35:44,120 --> 00:35:45,440
There's my tease for the next time.

883
00:35:45,440 --> 00:35:48,301
Appreciate you guys jumping on.

884
00:35:48,301 --> 00:35:49,542
Thanks, guys.

885
00:35:49,542 --> 00:35:50,222
Thanks, Blaine.

886
00:35:50,222 --> 00:35:51,483
Thank you both very much.

887
00:35:51,483 --> 00:35:51,783
All right.

888
00:35:51,783 --> 00:35:57,025
That was that was Nick Ferguson and Alex
Hardy, host of the sports show here.

889
00:35:57,025 --> 00:35:58,645
It's called Those Guys.

890
00:35:58,766 --> 00:35:59,546
You heard it.

891
00:35:59,546 --> 00:36:00,687
They call it Those Guys.

892
00:36:00,687 --> 00:36:02,947
I saw that's what we're going with for the
name.

893
00:36:03,107 --> 00:36:06,169
So that was Those Guys at Radio Row.

894
00:36:06,169 --> 00:36:06,909
Nick's great.

895
00:36:06,909 --> 00:36:07,409
I love Nick.

896
00:36:07,409 --> 00:36:07,989
Yeah.

897
00:36:08,502 --> 00:36:10,743
Yeah, just good dudes, just good dudes.

898
00:36:10,743 --> 00:36:13,365
And I love it because it's like their name
is so perfect.

899
00:36:13,365 --> 00:36:13,805
It is.

900
00:36:13,805 --> 00:36:16,847
It's, you know, those guys, you're just
like hanging out with them.

901
00:36:16,867 --> 00:36:17,368
Those guys.

902
00:36:17,368 --> 00:36:17,748
Yeah, man.

903
00:36:17,748 --> 00:36:21,231
Cause later, cause they get into some dad
talk on the show too, which is real fun.

904
00:36:21,231 --> 00:36:27,375
So I love that the whole relationship
talk, like he said, you really can relate

905
00:36:27,375 --> 00:36:30,017
on a personal level, everybody's in a
relationship.

906
00:36:30,017 --> 00:36:31,418
That's no joke.

907
00:36:31,418 --> 00:36:36,961
Ferg, if it wasn't to have been for me and
Ferg sitting in a dark studio late.

908
00:36:37,150 --> 00:36:39,030
Lots of nights talking about
relationships.

909
00:36:39,030 --> 00:36:42,431
I wouldn't have real me and Lindsay
wouldn't have Wouldn't have happened.

910
00:36:42,652 --> 00:36:45,213
I need to know about that story blaine.

911
00:36:45,213 --> 00:36:50,095
We're gonna get a deep dive on that We'll
have to let ferg tell that but this was an

912
00:36:50,095 --> 00:36:51,255
amazing show.

913
00:36:51,255 --> 00:36:57,758
Thanks to skyler from utahustlers.com
Steven klopfenstein And alex and ferg

914
00:36:57,758 --> 00:36:58,438
those guys.

915
00:36:58,438 --> 00:37:00,059
Thanks for coming on the show guys.

916
00:37:00,059 --> 00:37:03,320
We'll have to see how that super bowl
turns out I hope taylor swift makes it.

917
00:37:03,320 --> 00:37:06,706
Oh my gosh if she doesn't I am sweating

918
00:37:06,706 --> 00:37:11,672
Man until then you radio daybreak.com go
buy some merch.

919
00:37:11,672 --> 00:37:13,033
We'll see you guys next week