The One To Remember w/ Empowering Women

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Hey guys, it's Becks and not Blane here.

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Radio Daybreak, best podcast in Utah.

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Jen, thanks.

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Thanks so much for joining me and filling in for Blane this morning.

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Sure appreciate it.

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Yes, it's a pleasure to be here.

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I love Radio Daybreak, so it's a pleasure to be a guest host for a little bit.

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Yeah, we had so much fun.

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If you listened to our episode last week recording International Women's Day, we had a group of six amazing women on the show and you know, I just kind of thought we should keep that rolling for the month of March.

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It's so much fun.

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Yes, that women energy and women power.

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It was Blaine's going to can return and be like, Whoa, what happened to my spot? I didn't know that I was, you know, going to officially lose that.

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He's not, he's not, he'll be back.

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Um, but we do have a couple of announcements we want to make, um, today.

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Jen, do you want to kick us off with a pop up market? Yeah.

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So that'll be this Saturday, March 16th at novel daybreak.

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It'll be all day from 10 to five.

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So come on over and see the booths that are set up.

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Yes, we will be there.

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Um, Radio Daybreak and Blane will be joining me at, at the pop up.

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Um, so come and look for us.

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Radio Daybreak.

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We'll have our own little booth set up.

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And then also we just wanted to remind you about the DVC, the Daybreak Business Community.

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Our networking event for the month of March is going to be at Biscott's, um, The Hub.

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So, if you want to join us, it's every Wednesday in the month of March at Biscott's, 1 to 2.

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30 PM.

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Yes, and that's always a great time, authentic connections, and just, you know, really getting to know our neighbors and see what people do in Daybreak and how we can help each other.

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Yeah, we are super excited.

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And then Jen, do you, I feel like you as the guest host should intro the show.

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Okay.

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I'm happy to.

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So we had a group of six women on a panel and then two co hosts, and we just talked about all things woman.

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You know, we just had a moment where we shared what was Touching our hearts about International Women's Day and what was standing out to us and my gosh, I don't even know this is great.

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And I actually wanted to say, I mean, you of all people, I mean, I know that this topic is near and dear to your heart because your podcast, um, is kind of.

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Surrounded by this, right? Like this is, this is what you do.

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Very true.

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Yes.

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I am really passionate about helping moms maintain their identity alongside motherhood.

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And so I'm in the thick of it with kiddos, five, three, and one, but I truly believe that we can nurture our passions as we nurture our children.

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I love that.

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Well, without further ado, let's listen to our full episode of the international women's day panel.

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Yes.

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And Also, virtual for the first time ever on Radio Daybreak.

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That is correct.

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Virtual for the first time on Radio Daybreak.

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So excited! All right.

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So we've got an awesome show today.

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We are super excited.

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So Becks Nielsen here with Becks Nielsen Real Estate and Radio Daybreak.

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And we've got our co host Jen.

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And I'm from A's for Adversity going through rebrand, but that's what it is right now.

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Yeah.

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Thanks for joining us.

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And we have an awesome panel for International Women's Day, just some amazing women in studio today.

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So thank you all for joining us.

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Of course.

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Thank you.

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We're excited.

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So we're going to just go down the list here and kind of, if you don't mind just introducing yourself, tell us a couple of things about you and just kind of get to know you.

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I'm Sarah Zaroll.

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I'm the founder of Made Mindful, which has resources for birth and motherhood for anybody who is on their first time journey or is just needing more assistance.

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I'm a birth doula and have really enjoyed being able to help people start their motherhood journey.

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Awesome.

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Thank you, Sarah.

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Hi, I'm Jacey.

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Um, I have an Instagram account called Life of a Sister where, um, it's two sisters kind of just being insane and crazy, showing our crazy life with, um, our eight children between the two of us.

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I have three girls and one boy and we show all things fashion, all things crazy, cooking, food, pretty much just.

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The day in the life of a sister.

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How awesome.

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Thanks for joining us today, Jaci.

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Hi, I'm Michelle.

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I have seven kids.

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I kept on having kids until I found one I like.

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I really like my last one.

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I'm going to keep her ages 38 down to 18.

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I'm a life coach, relationship coach, trauma coach.

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I've been doing it for 18 years and I have my certificate through Stanford.

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I take you from where you are now and let's move you forward.

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Wow.

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Thank you for having us.

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I'm excited to get to know everyone.

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Thanks for coming.

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Hi, I'm Amber Bennett.

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Um, I am currently in the thick of motherhood, but I did have a very colorful life before motherhood.

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So I'm excited to share with you guys by way of Los Angeles and working in the film industry with, um, set design and costume design.

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Wow.

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Awesome.

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Thanks, Amber.

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Hi, I'm Lindsay.

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Um, I work in the aerospace and defense.

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Industry.

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I'm a senior acquisition manager, um, and co owner of Ride the Wave Media.

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And I'm really excited to get you to know all of you as well.

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Awesome.

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Yeah, we've got a great panel today.

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So thank you again for joining us.

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Jen, I'm going to let you kick us off with our first question.

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Okay.

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Sounds great.

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Amber, your journey to motherhood was not easy.

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How has that experience shaped you and who you are? Yeah, well, thanks for asking.

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Um, it took me a long time to have kids.

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We had unexplained infertility.

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So about 10 years of not knowing why, but we had miscarriages and things like that.

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And it was a hard time, but looking back now, um, I'm in the perfect stage of my life to be a mother.

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So I, I love being able to share that with others, what I've learned along the way, being there for others who are struggling with infertility.

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But in those 10 years, I did have a lot of adventures.

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So, um, It's just, I appreciate things now about being a mother that I don't know if I would have as much if I would have had kids earlier, but, um, I love it.

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I'm enjoying that part of my life right now.

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And we're lucky we ended up having two boys, so I feel super blessed that they were able to come.

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And, um, I'll share with you a little bit later when it comes up.

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But, um, yeah, we did have a lot of adventures in LA before kids came.

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So it was fun.

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That's awesome.

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Thanks.

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Great.

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Sarah, do you have anything to add to that? What have you seen through Made Mindful? How have you come across a lot of infertility or people, or what has been your experience meeting different mothers? I think infertility is one of the unspoken heartaches of our generation right now.

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Um, it's, um, It's never something that someone can, you know, like really describe what support they need, but everybody can pinpoint the support that they don't need or the comments that really dig down deep to their soul.

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Um, and as we have been supporting clients, especially those who have had miscarriages or, you know, they're delivering their rainbow baby.

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There's so much that's built within them that actually prohibits them from having a successful delivery.

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And so when you were talking about your trauma, you know, we try to help people to release their fears and really get past those things while they're pregnant so that when it comes time for delivery, they're ready.

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Oh, I love that.

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I love that.

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And, you know, that really does kind of bring into focus what, that really does bring into focus why we are here and why we wanted this panel of women to come and talk about who you are, what you do, you know, we are all from the same community.

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So that's kind of neat.

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We do have that in common, but it leads me to, you know, International Women's Day and bringing these strong, amazing women from our community together.

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I just kind of want to run down the list and we'll start here with you, Lindsay, on what does International Women's Day mean to you? You know, I was, I saw the question, I thought about the question today before coming in and I was like, I'm trying to pinpoint because when it first came up, First came about yeah kind of I kind of looked at it interestingly.

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I thought it was like an overly feministic And kind of abrasive day and then I learned more and more about like what it was like coming into my own skin and Don't do that We're all here to support you here girl It's just because we have such women power here right now But I mean the lot that You Just take a second cause I know we can cut.

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Yeah, of course.

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Of course.

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Own the emotion.

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It's a beautiful gift.

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Own the emotion.

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Absolutely.

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I'm over here with tears in my eyes cause I feel.

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I've just seen a lot of examples lately in life where really strong women have come together.

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I have a coworker that is amazing.

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And I think a lot of my coworkers that are amazing.

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Just the experience of seeing the power that women have in the face of adversity, not necessarily saying that it's like male adversity, but just even our own adversity, like our own self imposed.

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Our own cap that we put on ourself.

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Our own cap.

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Completely.

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Confidence cap that we put.

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Anyway, it means a lot, obviously, um, and I'm like way here for all women, like, Oh, I love that.

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I love it.

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Not in a psycho feminist way, but like in a way that we are amazing.

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Yes.

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And I love that you started that by saying, I can feel the energy here because, you know, I'm over here again, you're going to make me cry, but I'm going to feel that.

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I feel that as well.

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Just that energy.

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We've got some amazing women here doing some amazing things in our community and.

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You know, again, this International Women's Day, we can take a very feminist to it and it can quickly turn into a negative thing.

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And I don't think that's, you know, why we're gathered here or the intention of today.

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And so I really love your, your answer and, you know, how you address that.

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Because I think sometimes it comes from other women.

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It comes from ourselves.

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And I know you've got some life coaches here that can probably speak a little more to that.

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Yes, exactly.

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I mean, but, Right? Like, we sometimes have those, um, what am I trying to say here, ladies? Those ideas or those limiting beliefs that we put on ourselves.

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Absolutely.

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So, I love that you shared that.

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Thank you.

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Yes.

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So, that's exactly, I think, where we should celebrate, is that we, As women in this room and within our tribe and within our community, we are breaking those beliefs and those threads that have gone back through history.

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I mean, when I thought about this topic and really the impact of women that we've had and how short history is.

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So just a hundred years ago, we got to vote.

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Yeah, that's crazy.

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I remember thinking, um, driving here that was my great grandma.

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Yeah.

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She didn't have that right to have an opinion about her community, her tribe, her neighborhood.

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And I think it's really important that as we sit here with our beauty and our strength, and that we are shattering these beliefs and it starts within our family and then it starts within our community and then it moves out and we need to shatter in one thread at a time.

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Where does that thread link back? Like you were talking about your infertility and that thread is so tender.

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And then, you know, going into these births, you have to cut those threads in order to be set free.

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Yeah, I love that.

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And I think that's what we're doing here today.

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Thank you.

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How about you, JC? What are your thoughts on International Women's Day or just motherhood or women in general, wherever you want to take that? Well, first of all, I want to say that I love the Being a woman.

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I think it comes with a lot of perks.

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Um, I love all of the parts of it.

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I love being a mom.

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I even love the hardships that come with a woman.

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And then the relationships I think you find through those hardships with other women.

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Um, I recently, my high school friends have started having a polo group and it's going 24 seven.

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So I can't keep up on it always, but I mean, just finding the connection and the other women.

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There's probably a lot of them who are going through what you're going through, or maybe someone's going through something that you have been through.

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And it's just so magical to see what women can do.

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And it just makes me kind of happy to listen to it through and out the day.

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And it's like friendship.

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And I love being a woman.

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It's fun.

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I just want to put a plug in for JC because her Instagram account is so inspiring.

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I think it's a space that's super safe for women.

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And when I, I know there's a lot of controversy about, you know, influencers and Instagram and how it makes you feel, but it's a safe space and you make women feel okay about themselves.

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You're really real.

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So I just wanted to put a plug in for you on that.

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I love that.

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And I'm going to bounce it back and ask, have you.

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Received pushback with your Instagram and like being a strong female, you know, face in the community.

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She's over here smiling.

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Yeah, it's coming.

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Um, you know what me and my sister McKenzie, who I run the account with, we have been truly, I feel like blessed.

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Our followers are really nice.

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Like we've talked about actually multiple times.

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And maybe that is because most of the time we are, we try not to be too controversial and keep it light.

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Like Amber said, it's a pretty, um, light place.

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Like I said, it's just us being crazy moms most of the time and throwing on an Amazon deal, you know, that can make you really happy.

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Sometimes it's just an Amazon deal that can make you happy at the end of the day.

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And it gets there at your doorstep.

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Next day, that's the best part, you know, perks again of being a woman, especially in 2024.

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Um, but yeah, there's definitely times when you post something and you're, you're, you're second guessing yourself.

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But at the end of the day, I feel like most women, especially these days are really good to one another.

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And I think that's the beauty of where we've, where we've gotten to.

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Yeah, that's great.

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Uh, I have a lot of friends who are stuck in the mom guilt phase.

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So does anyone have any advice for how to get out of the mom guilt realm? You know, because with technology and with the advance in media, we do compare ourselves to others more often just because it's out there.

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But how can we refrain from doing that? I feel like you two are super qualified to answer this.

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Yes.

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Get our life coaches on here.

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Oh my goodness.

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I think we need to just throw that little gem out.

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We just do not.

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Comparisons kill.

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And there is no reason because we are so incredible and so unique and so rare.

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And there's only one of us.

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And why waste time comparing because as I look around this table, the individual, each person here is so beautiful and you are accomplishing and doing what you are made to do.

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And if you weren't following your own journey.

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Talents and gifts and patterns, then you wouldn't be an influencer.

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You wouldn't be helping, you know, babies come into this beautiful world and experience, you know, the miracle of life.

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And so I think all of us need to just sit back into the space and realize how special it is to be rare, how special it is to be rare.

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To be you.

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Um, there's only one of us and there's a reason for that.

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And you are the only one who can make that impact.

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No one else.

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You have to make your own impact.

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So I say get rid of it.

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Cut that thread.

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Doesn't exist.

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I love that.

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What about you, Sarah? Any thoughts on that? I think mom guilt is one of the hardest words to really swallow.

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Um, in my own life right now, I am actually just taking a breath and slowing down.

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Everybody says those young years.

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Go by so fast.

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So my kids, my boys, all three, six, four, and two.

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And so I don't have a lot of time most days to, to really dive into much of anything else, but because I care for them so deeply and I do want to be the one that is raising them day in and day out.

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I'm just taking a break from a couple of my other responsibilities and sometimes I feel guilty myself for putting myself on the back burner but then I remember that the time and season is for me right now and the attachment that I can form with my children will create a bond that, that can't be then broken later on when I do jump back in with both feet into everything that I am made to pursue.

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Yeah, I think she said the key.

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It's a season.

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And we have to respect the season that we're in and not be so hard on ourselves.

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If you're a young mom, your responsibility is those little ones.

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If you're in a season like me and my children are gone and now wisdom and experience are colliding and they call it a midlife crisis.

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I don't think it's a midlife crisis.

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I just think it's this beautiful of explosion of this past when I was a young mom to raising kids to now an empty nester.

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Um, I think when you have that, um, That experience and that wisdom is, um, this beautiful gift, but you need to sit in each season because it's so short.

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You get 12 summers, you know, before they leave.

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So, um, just respect where you are and not be so hard on yourself.

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You know, that really puts things into perspective when you.

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Break it down like that, right? It doesn't always feel so simplified when you're, you know, you've got toddlers climbing all over furniture and you're in the thick of it, right? Changing diapers and getting no sleep.

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And which actually leads to another question that I had.

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Um, and I think you touched on this just a little bit, Sarah, and it, when you mentioned, you know, not having time for yourself, tell me how you guys approach that now, how you ladies approach that now is creating that time or making time.

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And, you know, Jen, you, you hit the nail on the head when you're like, sometimes we feel like that's selfish, you know, that ugly, nasty term or the mom guilt associated with that.

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So do any of you want to take on that question? Any thoughts, Jen? Yeah, I'll speak to that before we open it up.

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That's kind of my mission and purpose in life is to help women maintain their identity throughout motherhood.

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And I feel like we get trapped sometimes with the all or nothing mentality.

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You don't have to be all mother or all empty nester.

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There's some overlap and there are things that you can do to fill your cup so that you show up as a better mom to your children.

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And that's kind of what I do.

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Now I put my boys in daycare on Wednesdays every week just to have that little respite to have the time where I can do podcast interviews and things like that.

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And so finding the ways that fill your cup, even if it's not on a grand scale level.

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Um, you know, I was thinking about that as you were talking about it and I kind of have the opposite of some people.

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I kind of had my Not midlife crisis, but I had my kidless years in the beginning in my twenties.

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So I kind of feel like I've lived a whole lifetime in those 10 years before kids came.

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And so I'm kind of in the opposite of what a midlife crisis would be.

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But, um, So I, I was able to pursue my talents and do amazing things in that 10 year period.

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And now I'm kind of living a more quiet life and it's kind of interesting.

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So what I try to do is, um, because I am in the thick of motherhood with a 13 year old and a nine year old boy is I'm trying to find little outlets for my creativity and the things that I love to do.

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So like the other day I went with Jen and we went and we did a personal styling experience where she, I helped her find some clothes that she.

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Looks amazing in and feels confident in for some of her speaking engagements.

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And for me, that filled my cup and I know she probably thought I was helping her, but it helped me because it filled my cup.

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I was able to release those things that I'm not able to usually exercise in.

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At this stage in my life, like we talked about, but little things like that do fill my cup.

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So yeah, nice.

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That's a great point because you had an entire career.

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Tell us a little bit about you were in the film industry, right? You yeah.

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Well, my husband was there for film school in Los Angeles for 12 years.

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Any projects he worked on, he would bring me on to help, you know, set decorating, set design, wardrobe department, costume design.

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And I kind of had my hands in all that for a long time.

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And it was really exciting and really fun, really superficial.

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But it definitely, you know, was a way that I could, you know, exercise that creative side of me for a long time.

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And it was fun.

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Okay, and I've got a follow up for you because I hear you might be in law school or second career.

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Like, tell me a little bit.

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I say it here.

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Now I have to, but no, before kids came, I was looking into graduate school and, um, I was this close to going to graduate school and then we were able to have a successful pregnancy.

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And I had, you know, And that kind of got put on the back burner.

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And now I feel like I'm getting to the stage where I could go back to school.

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And I'm like, if I'm going to go back to school, why don't I just go to law school? Cause that was always a possibility.

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So yeah, we're looking at that in the future too.

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So that's on my bucket list right now.

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Absolutely amazing.

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Geez.

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Maybe I need a second career or third or fourth.

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I think your film is full enough.

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I heard you're on your fourth or fifth now, aren't you? Something like that, no, I'm teasing.

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So, JC, do you feel like Instagram is an outlet for you or does it feel more Like a duty.

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What is that like for you? Um, Instagram is sometimes a four letter word.

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If I'm being very honest and there has been peaks and valleys for sure.

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I've been, uh, we've had our Instagram account for almost 10 years now and it's definitely changed too in the time that we've been together.

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doing it.

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Um, it changed a lot during COVID.

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So, but there's definitely like joy that still comes from it.

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It's a job, but there's joy.

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And I think that's why it, what keeps me going.

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Um, there's some days where I want to delete and then there's other days that you're loving it.

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Like all things, I think.

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Um, I wouldn't say it's my outlet.

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I would say it's what I'm doing to get it done.

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And my outlet was, um, other things.

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I.

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Are not four letter words, but um, I actually think there's a lot of There's a lot of perks that come from it.

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I've obviously, um, not only like monetarily, but I've gotten to go, you know, to Aruba with my husband on a trip and things I probably would have never gotten to do.

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I've gotten to experience, um, things like that.

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So I love that side of it.

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And, um, I also try to be super careful in front of, I have three girls, so I try and be very careful about what they see.

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Um, my daughter's almost 11 and she's already like, I want Instagram.

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It's a no.

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Everyone has their own opinions and where that goes, you know, but raising three girls, I definitely have strong, strong feelings about social media for young kids.

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So they do not see me on social media from when they get home from school at 335 till, and then I.

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I do it while my baby naps.

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I do all my filming during then.

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And then when my kids get into bed, I do a lot of it in my bed after my husband starts snoring.

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That's when I do like the background stuff.

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The filming takes place during my baby's nap.

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And after that, I try and put it away so that my girls don't have to see that.

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That's a neat boundary to have in place.

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That's very impressive.

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Impressive.

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Yeah.

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Well, we have a lot of boy moms here.

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Thank you for sharing that experience as a girl mom.

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I wouldn't know what that's like.

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Me either.

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We have a lot of boy moms here.

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What's it like for you, Lindsay, raising boys? Um, I think I was kind of mentioning earlier, I thought I was having a girl both times.

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So it was a surprise to be a boy mom.

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But I decided along the way, um, that there's a responsibility of being a boy mom.

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And I felt like, I'm not gonna do any of this without crying.

353
00:25:41,230.0718899 --> 00:25:46,620.0708899
I felt like there's a responsibility to show them how to have emotions and how it's okay to have emotions.

354
00:25:47,360.0718899 --> 00:25:50,450.0713899
My goodness, you girls are energizing my tears.

355
00:25:50,450.0713899 --> 00:25:52,730.0718899
You don't, you don't have a lot of estrogen at your house.

356
00:25:52,810.0718899 --> 00:25:53,270.0708899
I don't.

357
00:25:53,710.0718899 --> 00:25:55,460.0708899
It's like I have a cat that I don't like.

358
00:25:55,460.1708899 --> 00:25:56,649.9718899
There is good energy in here.

359
00:25:56,650.0718899 --> 00:25:58,214.9718899
There really is, there really is.

360
00:25:59,175.0718899 --> 00:26:00,295.0718899
Yes, exactly.

361
00:26:00,665.0718899 --> 00:26:06,5.0718899
But I feel like there's a responsibility to our young boys, like, to break the norms.

362
00:26:06,5.0718899 --> 00:26:10,215.0718899
Like, my son can paint his nails, he can have long hair, he can do whatever he likes.

363
00:26:10,455.0718899 --> 00:26:11,505.0718899
It doesn't matter.

364
00:26:11,535.0708899 --> 00:26:14,895.0718899
There's no gender specif specificity? In my house.

365
00:26:15,215.0708899 --> 00:26:24,55.0718899
And I think it's really important for them to know that they have a strong mom, and that they have, that they can do whatever they want, but so can their girlfriends, and so can their boyfriends.

366
00:26:24,55.0718899 --> 00:26:35,699.9718899
It's like It's like Anyone can be anything, and I, and we, we fly a pride flag, and we, we love to share with them that everybody is a deserving of love, and they can do anything that they want in life.

367
00:26:36,470.0718899 --> 00:26:38,690.0718899
So, I feel like it's a big responsibility to our boys.

368
00:26:39,120.0718899 --> 00:26:39,540.0718899
For sure.

369
00:26:39,550.0718899 --> 00:26:40,170.0718899
Very good.

370
00:26:40,750.0718899 --> 00:26:41,380.0718899
I love that.

371
00:26:41,480.0718899 --> 00:26:45,710.0713899
I feel like I've gained a deeper appreciation for men with having boys, cause as J.

372
00:26:45,710.0713899 --> 00:26:45,870.0708899
C.

373
00:26:45,870.0718899 --> 00:26:46,800.0718899
said, I love being a woman.

374
00:26:46,800.0718899 --> 00:26:47,540.0718899
There's so many perks.

375
00:26:47,550.0718899 --> 00:26:47,660.0718899
Yes.

376
00:26:47,770.0718899 --> 00:26:50,940.0708899
But to get that appreciation for men is, is good too.

377
00:26:51,180.0718899 --> 00:26:55,585.0718899
Who are our other boy moms in here? I have a mix.

378
00:26:55,615.0718899 --> 00:26:56,905.0718899
I have a mix as well.

379
00:26:57,135.0718899 --> 00:27:02,625.0718899
So, and I think it, I think such a great point how we have to teach our young men.

380
00:27:02,935.0718899 --> 00:27:11,435.0708899
One of the things that we did, because I have seven kids, but, um, my, my story is two of them were natural and five of them are adopted.

381
00:27:11,545.0708899 --> 00:27:14,145.0708899
And they all came at different ages and different stages.

382
00:27:14,575.0708899 --> 00:27:17,45.0708899
And then I've experienced miscarriages too.

383
00:27:17,105.0718899 --> 00:27:19,505.0718899
I had six of them and then I wasn't able to get pregnant.

384
00:27:19,775.0718899 --> 00:27:20,489.9718899
So God's blessing.

385
00:27:20,690.0718899 --> 00:27:21,510.0718899
Well, it's kind of funny.

386
00:27:21,510.0718899 --> 00:27:22,790.0718899
He's like, well, we'll give you five more.

387
00:27:24,10.0718899 --> 00:27:38,250.0718899
But when these children entered our home, especially the young men and coming into a house where there's other girls and how to treat them and, and, and no, that my girls should stand up for themselves.

388
00:27:38,250.0718899 --> 00:27:47,120.0718899
So what we did is we started dating our kids and my husband and I, we would take each one of the kids out on a date and they would learn how to date.

389
00:27:47,570.0708899 --> 00:27:54,460.0708899
And one week my son would ask me out the next week I would ask out my daughter and we did this throughout their whole childhood.

390
00:27:54,470.0718899 --> 00:27:58,470.0718899
And my favorite experience when my son got out of the Marines, I'm going to cry.

391
00:27:59,710.0718899 --> 00:28:22,5.0718899
Um, He came home and he snuck downstairs and he put on his dress blues and then he went to the front door and he knocked on the front door and I opened it up and there he was all in his uniform and he's like the first thing I want to do mom is take you out on a date and he had flowers so I think it's so important that we set a standard inside of our home.

392
00:28:22,900.0718899 --> 00:28:27,930.0718899
on how people should be treated, our moms, our sisters, our friends, our family.

393
00:28:28,150.0718899 --> 00:28:35,420.0718899
And it starts with these young men and, and not letting them mistreat women and your daughter standing up and owning their voice.

394
00:28:35,440.0708899 --> 00:28:40,254.9718899
So that was, date your kids is one of my advices I would have, and it was, it was very helpful.

395
00:28:40,455.0718899 --> 00:28:44,775.0718899
good for our family and helped us blend all these different personalities and ages.

396
00:28:44,775.1718899 --> 00:28:47,925.0718899
So incredibly powerful.

397
00:28:47,935.0718899 --> 00:28:50,515.0718899
So I have, I want to dive into that a little bit.

398
00:28:50,525.0718899 --> 00:28:52,665.0708899
So tell us like what that looked like for you.

399
00:28:52,685.0718899 --> 00:28:58,805.0708899
Would you go out to dinner or you'd have conversations or, you know, what did that look like? So we had rules.

400
00:28:58,815.0718899 --> 00:29:06,925.0718899
So because of the kids all coming at different stages and ages, um, if you had a date, we'd go out on a date and the date would go on.

401
00:29:06,925.1718899 --> 00:29:07,219.9718899
Okay.

402
00:29:07,590.0718899 --> 00:29:14,10.0718899
Unless they misbehaved and then the date would end because of behavioral problems with some of these kids that were coming in with different backgrounds.

403
00:29:14,10.0718899 --> 00:29:27,50.0718899
But, um, they would ask out and we would ask out and then sometimes we'd have this big jar and you'd pull it out and maybe a date would be 5 or a date would be free or, um, a date would be at home and we'd have to make dinner together.

404
00:29:27,210.0718899 --> 00:29:28,370.0718899
One of my favorite.

405
00:29:28,860.0718899 --> 00:29:30,660.0718899
dates that my son had, we'd go to R.

406
00:29:30,660.0718899 --> 00:29:30,830.0718899
C.

407
00:29:30,830.0718899 --> 00:29:31,980.0718899
Willie and play hide and seek.

408
00:29:32,280.0718899 --> 00:29:50,250.0718899
So you could be creative with dates, picnics in the park, um, just even going to the grocery store and learning how to grocery shop, just some of these life skills, but having that time and interviewing and talking to our kids and letting them know how valuable they are and having a safe space to land.

409
00:29:50,530.0718899 --> 00:29:54,680.0718899
Um, so, and I think it was important that my husband and I both did it.

410
00:29:54,885.0718899 --> 00:30:01,265.0718899
And that the children would have a turn in asking us out as much as we would have a turn in asking them out.

411
00:30:01,545.0718899 --> 00:30:03,425.0718899
And it would just go through a rotation.

412
00:30:03,495.0718899 --> 00:30:17,895.0718899
And so I think when I speak to my children now and I see them doing the same thing in their family, and they talk about that experience, how that created a relationship that they didn't have coming from other backgrounds.

413
00:30:18,65.0718899 --> 00:30:27,395.0718899
So I think it's just an, it's It's a great place to play, have curiosity, and to create a bond that you wouldn't have if you didn't take them out on a date.

414
00:30:28,465.0718899 --> 00:30:29,975.0718899
Yeah, I absolutely love that.

415
00:30:30,95.0718899 --> 00:30:42,875.0718899
Especially in your situation, how you had these children coming to you at different phases in their life and really, you know, needing to know those life skills and how to interact with their family, their siblings.

416
00:30:42,875.0718899 --> 00:30:43,705.0718899
I mean, just so cool.

417
00:30:43,705.0718899 --> 00:30:44,955.0718899
I've never heard of that before.

418
00:30:44,955.0718899 --> 00:30:46,245.0718899
So I appreciate you sharing that.

419
00:30:46,435.0718899 --> 00:30:46,935.0718899
Thank you.

420
00:30:46,945.0718899 --> 00:30:47,375.0718899
It was fun.

421
00:30:48,275.0718899 --> 00:31:40,265.0718899
Um, Sarah, can you share a memorable moment from your blog or services that illustrate the impact you've had on other women? I think the most important thing that I do is to help empower women, to help them believe that no matter what they choose in their birth, you know, some moms, they're needing a c section right off the bat and other women, they want to birth at home and just helping them believe in themselves, helping them realize that they have so much strength within themselves to accomplish, uh, like the most difficult You know, labor and delivery is one of those transformative events in the lives of a woman and just helping them know that they can do it is It's just been so magical to be able to receive that feedback from people saying like, thank you so much for helping me, you know, like I was able to have my unmedicated labor.

422
00:31:40,585.0718899 --> 00:31:45,975.0718899
And you know, this is just a text that I got a few weeks ago from, from a friend who was able to take one of our courses.

423
00:31:45,995.0708899 --> 00:31:46,524.9718899
And so so much.

424
00:31:46,695.0718899 --> 00:31:55,335.0718899
That just really lights me up and makes me realize that it's not the message that people are sharing these days is that people have the ability.

425
00:31:55,525.0718899 --> 00:32:00,885.0718899
I think the message these days is like, we'll go to the hospital and, you know, they'll just do X, Y, and Z.

426
00:32:00,885.0718899 --> 00:32:07,89.9718899
And, and so I just, I help people to really feel that empowerment and the belief in themselves.

427
00:32:07,90.1718899 --> 00:32:10,890.0718899
Did you just hear what she said? I mean, I know.

428
00:32:11,260.0718899 --> 00:32:14,200.0718899
Did she wing that? Oh my gosh.

429
00:32:15,60.0718899 --> 00:32:17,300.0718899
You see women at their most vulnerable.

430
00:32:17,380.0718899 --> 00:32:17,900.0718899
Yes.

431
00:32:18,490.0708899 --> 00:32:24,200.0718899
Like, We all had given, had babies here naturally, natural birth.

432
00:32:24,210.0718899 --> 00:32:34,220.0718899
Not that, I mean, motherhood comes in all different fashions, but talk about the worst pain in my entire life, right? Bringing those little babies into the world.

433
00:32:34,715.0718899 --> 00:32:39,555.0718899
But I love what you said and I just want to, you know, have a round table about this.

434
00:32:39,665.07189 --> 00:32:44,745.0708899
You're seeing women at their most vulnerable but also their most powerful moment.

435
00:32:45,175.0708899 --> 00:32:48,625.0708899
Like I was having goosebumps head to toe when you were talking about that.

436
00:32:49,25.0718899 --> 00:32:52,575.0708899
Um, tell me what you guys, what you thought about what Sarah said.

437
00:32:52,575.0718899 --> 00:32:55,638.37189
Any thoughts? I wish that I knew you on my first.

438
00:32:55,638.37189 --> 00:32:56,435.0718899
My goodness.

439
00:32:56,730.07189 --> 00:33:04,70.0718899
Because my, my thought process was it has to be just like the movies and I'm just supposed to pop him out, you know, three days later being induced.

440
00:33:04,70.0718899 --> 00:33:05,570.07089
It was not like that at all.

441
00:33:05,570.0718899 --> 00:33:07,470.0708899
It was very traumatic, so I wish I knew you.

442
00:33:08,380.07189 --> 00:33:13,20.07089
Because it was traumatic and then it was traumatic for months after just remembering and like it was really hard.

443
00:33:13,380.07189 --> 00:33:15,240.07189
So I think what you do is amazing.

444
00:33:16,615.0718899 --> 00:33:46,260.07189
Well, my first instinct was like you have a gift I can tell of empowering people like you like you're talking like yes But I think we all here at this table have a God given talent that we have Whether you believe in God or not, um, you have a talent that you have and I could feel it from you and that you are passionate about it.

445
00:33:46,270.07189 --> 00:33:47,480.0718899
So thanks for sharing.

446
00:33:47,490.0718899 --> 00:33:48,820.0718899
Yeah, that was a beautiful share.

447
00:33:49,300.07189 --> 00:33:51,480.0708899
I had a few choice, like badass words.

448
00:33:53,110.0718899 --> 00:33:54,800.07189
So I mean, thank you for that, Sarah.

449
00:33:54,810.0718899 --> 00:33:56,290.07189
Really, really incredible work.

450
00:33:56,290.07189 --> 00:33:56,730.0708899
What you do.

451
00:33:57,165.07189 --> 00:33:58,15.0718899
And breastfeeding.

452
00:33:58,25.0718899 --> 00:34:01,104.9718899
Nobody ever told me how awful it was going to be.

453
00:34:01,105.0718899 --> 00:34:01,775.0718899
I don't know why.

454
00:34:01,775.1718899 --> 00:34:03,345.0718899
I just thought it was going to be picturesque.

455
00:34:03,355.0718899 --> 00:34:04,605.0718899
That's all I know.

456
00:34:04,725.0718899 --> 00:34:09,885.0718899
So you just see the moms bonding with their baby, but that's not how it was.

457
00:34:09,935.0718899 --> 00:34:11,805.07089
You're like hair and makeup is perfect.

458
00:34:12,795.07189 --> 00:34:14,225.07089
You're perfect child.

459
00:34:14,225.0728899 --> 00:34:16,177.6218899
And you're just, this is going to be so easy.

460
00:34:16,177.6218899 --> 00:34:19,25.07189
And you're like, also a few choice words.

461
00:34:20,715.07189 --> 00:34:21,675.07189
No, but yeah.

462
00:34:21,765.0718899 --> 00:34:24,685.0718899
Did you have something to JC that you wanted to share? I look like you.

463
00:34:24,915.07189 --> 00:34:25,955.0718899
Well, you brought up breastfeeding.

464
00:34:26,265.0718899 --> 00:34:31,675.07189
And when I had my first, I had my first girl, obviously, and I was changing her diaper and she has a period.

465
00:34:32,365.0718899 --> 00:34:35,515.07089
And I'm like, what the freak? 24.

466
00:34:35,995.0718899 --> 00:34:39,555.0718899
And I call my doctor and she and they're like, Oh, that's normal.

467
00:34:39,935.0718899 --> 00:34:44,370.0718899
And I'm like, Really? I like, I never heard of it before.

468
00:34:44,630.07189 --> 00:34:47,130.07189
Still to this day I've never heard of anyone else giving their kid a period.

469
00:34:47,130.07189 --> 00:34:48,100.0718899
But I guess it is normal.

470
00:34:48,170.07189 --> 00:34:49,240.0718899
It's common or something.

471
00:34:49,600.0718899 --> 00:34:53,430.07139
But I had so many hormones going through me that I gave my daughter a period.

472
00:34:53,430.07139 --> 00:34:55,480.07089
And I was like, this is insane.

473
00:34:55,810.07089 --> 00:34:56,680.0718899
And you're acting insane.

474
00:34:56,990.0708899 --> 00:34:57,900.07089
Cause you know, you're postpartum.

475
00:34:57,910.07089 --> 00:34:58,380.0708899
I don't know.

476
00:34:58,380.07189 --> 00:35:03,660.0718899
Is anyone else insane after that? I do really weird things like stand in the shower and just sob.

477
00:35:03,850.0718899 --> 00:35:05,330.0718899
And then your breasts are leaking.

478
00:35:05,900.07189 --> 00:35:06,359.9718899
You know what's going on.

479
00:35:08,180.0718899 --> 00:35:14,670.07189
So we like this, like we're going to do this again, like it's the world's best kept secret postpartum.

480
00:35:15,530.07189 --> 00:35:16,770.07189
Nobody talks about any of those.

481
00:35:16,780.07189 --> 00:35:18,520.07089
Nobody, but then we do it again.

482
00:35:18,520.1708899 --> 00:35:26,20.07189
So birthing is like, it's like kind of magical because I think the birthday, now that is magic.

483
00:35:26,40.07189 --> 00:35:28,560.0718899
But the, you know, the next six weeks after another word.

484
00:35:29,0.07189 --> 00:35:33,220.0718899
And, and so that day makes up for everything after it.

485
00:35:33,220.0718899 --> 00:35:35,680.0718899
It's kind of, so what you do is like amazing that you're there for the.

486
00:35:36,205.0718899 --> 00:35:36,655.07189
Good day.

487
00:35:36,875.07189 --> 00:35:37,690.07189
The good, good, good day.

488
00:35:37,840.07189 --> 00:35:40,390.07189
By the way, I gave my dog a period after I had a baby.

489
00:35:40,960.07189 --> 00:35:48,100.0718899
The hormones that I had, the dog was like picking up on and made the same hormones and like, yeah.

490
00:35:48,370.07189 --> 00:35:49,415.07189
Oh, you were mimicking.

491
00:35:49,555.07189 --> 00:35:50,455.0718899
You were cka dodo.

492
00:35:50,455.0718899 --> 00:35:50,735.07189
Yeah.

493
00:35:50,775.07189 --> 00:35:51,255.07189
I thought I was.

494
00:35:51,725.0718899 --> 00:35:52,15.07189
Yeah.

495
00:35:52,330.0718899 --> 00:35:54,160.07189
Like my dog thought she was pregnant.

496
00:35:54,160.07189 --> 00:35:54,490.07189
Went too.

497
00:35:54,940.07189 --> 00:35:55,660.07189
Oh, you went places.

498
00:35:55,690.07189 --> 00:35:56,50.07189
You guys.

499
00:35:56,50.07189 --> 00:35:57,70.07189
Nature is weird.

500
00:35:57,100.0718899 --> 00:35:59,740.07189
Oh, crazy and fascinating and beautiful.

501
00:35:59,740.07189 --> 00:36:02,530.07189
Womanhood is so beautiful and crazy.

502
00:36:02,535.17189 --> 00:36:09,305.0718899
I think womanhood, right there, what we just got, um, talked about, we're superheroes.

503
00:36:09,735.07189 --> 00:36:15,385.0708899
I mean, what creature does that? And then goes, let's do it again.

504
00:36:15,965.0708899 --> 00:36:34,205.0718899
And my example, because I only had two births, and these miscarriages, when I adopted my daughter, um, the only one I got from birth, and they did the second skin, and they do the cocoon, and you put the little thing on, and they put this little tube down near my breasts so she could pretend like she was breastfeeding.

505
00:36:34,605.07189 --> 00:36:39,925.07189
Well, that was a stupid idea because my body's like, Oh, we've done this before.

506
00:36:39,925.07189 --> 00:36:43,815.07189
I know exactly what started making milk after 11 years.

507
00:36:43,815.07189 --> 00:36:45,235.0708899
I'm like, no, no, no, no.

508
00:36:46,385.07189 --> 00:36:47,465.07189
That was closed.

509
00:36:47,475.0718899 --> 00:36:49,835.07089
That's why I adopted it's broken.

510
00:36:49,875.07089 --> 00:36:53,405.0708899
And so being a woman is incredible.

511
00:36:53,415.07089 --> 00:36:56,995.07089
What our bodies do, how it can stretch and then just go.

512
00:36:57,400.07189 --> 00:37:05,510.07189
Bounce back, you know, within time, but make dogs have periods, make our daughters have periods, make milk come after 11 years.

513
00:37:05,550.07189 --> 00:37:08,470.0708899
I mean, if that's not a superhero, I don't know what is.

514
00:37:08,730.07189 --> 00:37:14,595.07189
Girls, holy cow, where's our cape? Right? We don't even need a cape.

515
00:37:15,225.0718899 --> 00:37:17,57.5218899
We don't need a cape.

516
00:37:17,57.5218899 --> 00:37:18,805.0718899
We just need a hot shower.

517
00:37:19,715.07189 --> 00:37:21,265.0718899
Oh, we should get tiaras for everybody.

518
00:37:21,265.0718899 --> 00:37:21,765.0718899
We should.

519
00:37:22,165.07189 --> 00:37:23,695.07189
We'll have our tiaras on.

520
00:37:23,695.07189 --> 00:37:24,45.07189
I love it.

521
00:37:24,45.17189 --> 00:37:28,34.9708899
I might have one.

522
00:37:28,35.07089 --> 00:37:33,619.97189
Where is your tiara? Why do we not have that on? This does not look like one.

523
00:37:34,260.07189 --> 00:37:35,450.0718899
Well, I just want to open it up.

524
00:37:35,490.0718899 --> 00:37:50,140.0718899
Is there, are there any questions that we did not ask or something, a message that you want to share or a powerful quote or something that you just wanted to share with our listeners today? And we'll just kind of go down the, the list here.

525
00:37:50,240.0708899 --> 00:37:54,120.0718899
Or does anybody have one right off they want to start with? I can share.

526
00:37:54,440.07189 --> 00:37:54,700.0718899
Yeah.

527
00:37:55,20.07189 --> 00:38:02,630.07189
I was just thinking, you know, when we, when the topic was international women's day, um, Um, I feel like sometimes I take that for granted.

528
00:38:02,970.0718899 --> 00:38:07,50.07189
I grew up in a household where literally from birth, I felt like I could conquer the world.

529
00:38:07,90.07189 --> 00:38:09,630.0708899
Like I thought I can run for president and I will win.

530
00:38:09,810.0718899 --> 00:38:14,670.0708899
Like I just, I just like, I never felt like there was anything wrong with being a woman.

531
00:38:14,670.07189 --> 00:38:15,940.0708899
I wasn't made to feel that way.

532
00:38:15,970.0718899 --> 00:38:21,410.0718899
So I was really fortunate and lucky that I had that environment to grow in and develop in.

533
00:38:21,920.07189 --> 00:38:29,70.0708899
Um, so for me, this is a topic that I have to think about now because it wasn't instinctual for me to think about it.

534
00:38:29,275.07189 --> 00:38:48,15.07189
And now that I do think about it, and again, I don't have daughters, so I'm not made to think about that on the daily, but when I do think about it, um, for me, what being a woman has meant to me is that I, I know that there are, there are things in place for me that if I want to go to college, that I can go to college.

535
00:38:48,275.07089 --> 00:38:53,285.07189
There are still women in this world who don't have, that's not even reading is not even allowed.

536
00:38:53,945.07189 --> 00:38:57,185.0718899
So I do take that for granted, and I do have to.

537
00:38:57,580.0718899 --> 00:39:03,710.0718899
Consciously think about what does being a woman mean in the world, not just in my bubble.

538
00:39:04,300.0718899 --> 00:39:14,430.0728899
So, um, I, I hope, and I, you know, I pray that women will all be able to feel that way at some point, but I feel very fortunate that I did feel that way growing up.

539
00:39:14,830.0718899 --> 00:39:20,940.07189
So that's a great point, right? Because we do live in a very blessed place.

540
00:39:20,950.0718899 --> 00:39:23,750.07189
We're here in Daybreak, South Jordan, Utah.

541
00:39:24,390.0718899 --> 00:39:26,360.0718899
We have a lot at our fingertips.

542
00:39:26,360.0718899 --> 00:39:27,770.07189
I mean, I'm in real estate.

543
00:39:28,130.0718899 --> 00:39:32,60.0718899
We weren't even allowed to own homes, right? Land, anything.

544
00:39:32,220.0718899 --> 00:39:36,590.0718899
You mentioned somebody, I think it was you, Michelle, you mentioned earlier the right to vote.

545
00:39:37,360.0708899 --> 00:39:45,150.0718899
I went and did a, um, humanitarian trip to Haiti and I forget, right? We forget when we're in this environment.

546
00:39:45,440.0718899 --> 00:39:48,960.0708899
They don't have birth control there and your average life expectancy.

547
00:39:50,175.0718899 --> 00:39:52,205.0718899
In this world is 40.

548
00:39:52,655.0718899 --> 00:39:58,55.0718899
40! They have no aid, no health care, no birth control.

549
00:39:58,505.0718899 --> 00:40:02,175.0718899
Like their orphanages are just full of babies that are abandoned.

550
00:40:02,185.0718899 --> 00:40:08,30.0718899
So I love that you bring that to our attention because We are pretty blessed where we're at.

551
00:40:08,190.0718899 --> 00:40:08,500.07189
We are.

552
00:40:08,500.07189 --> 00:40:15,360.0718899
And, and we can't forget though, that there are women who still feel that way in our environment, in our bubble.

553
00:40:15,430.0718899 --> 00:40:15,830.0718899
True.

554
00:40:16,180.0718899 --> 00:40:19,250.07189
So there are still women who do feel that way, but yeah.

555
00:40:19,690.0718899 --> 00:40:21,540.0708899
And in general, yes, we are blessed.

556
00:40:21,540.0708899 --> 00:40:22,400.0718899
We are lucky.

557
00:40:22,750.0708899 --> 00:40:23,290.0708899
Yeah.

558
00:40:23,785.0718899 --> 00:40:24,75.0718899
Yeah.

559
00:40:24,75.0718899 --> 00:40:27,245.0718899
Any other thoughts? I just kind of want to go down our panel here.

560
00:40:27,355.0718899 --> 00:40:28,925.0718899
I love that.

561
00:40:28,925.0718899 --> 00:40:33,565.0718899
She said that I grew up in the same environment where I feel like I could just conquer the world.

562
00:40:33,875.0718899 --> 00:40:37,545.0708899
Um, I think that is such a blessing, but I think of my kids.

563
00:40:37,615.0718899 --> 00:40:43,65.0708899
Um, one of my daughters is from Ethiopia and she was, um, born there and.

564
00:40:43,460.0718899 --> 00:40:59,520.0718899
came over here and I think about her history, her family, her situation, her hardship just to get to, um, America and how it is not, uh, given everywhere and we need to be mindful of the seat and the table that we're sitting at.

565
00:41:01,470.0708899 --> 00:41:09,80.0718899
In this place, daybreak, the United States, Utah, it is a very beautiful table but we need to be mindful of women all over the world.

566
00:41:09,590.0718899 --> 00:41:11,950.0718899
We have a program that my daughter and I have set up.

567
00:41:12,570.0718899 --> 00:41:24,760.0718899
In Ethiopia and because the women there don't have what we have and that is sad in 2024 that there are still women just suffering and it's a crossed.

568
00:41:24,800.0718899 --> 00:41:28,850.0718899
And so I think we need to be mindful and be aware of what table we're sitting at.

569
00:41:30,130.0728899 --> 00:41:31,740.0728899
That's really, really powerful.

570
00:41:32,400.0718899 --> 00:41:35,790.07189
And I would love to get that information and we'll share that on our socials too.

571
00:41:35,790.07189 --> 00:41:39,420.0718899
And this podcast goes out, we'll be sure to link that at the bottom of our socials.

572
00:41:40,80.0708899 --> 00:41:40,330.0718899
Thank you.

573
00:41:40,810.0718899 --> 00:41:43,420.0718899
JC, did you have something as well? I'd like to say ditto.

574
00:41:43,430.0718899 --> 00:41:43,750.0718899
Yeah.

575
00:41:44,490.0718899 --> 00:41:44,930.0718899
Drop the mic.

576
00:41:45,240.0718899 --> 00:41:50,900.0718899
I know they're saying me and Amber kind of talked about it before we got here and it was kind of like, Oh, this is kind of hard.

577
00:41:50,910.0718899 --> 00:41:56,800.0708899
Cause like what Amber said, we have grown up in this kind of fairytale, you know, little bubble, like she said.

578
00:41:57,190.0718899 --> 00:42:02,540.07189
So, but I think it's so important that we do remember our bubble is so small compared.

579
00:42:02,570.07189 --> 00:42:08,590.07189
I mean, we talk about overseas, but there's even like you said, people here in the U S are definitely limited for being a woman.

580
00:42:09,10.07189 --> 00:42:18,715.0718899
Um, I know my cousin who's adopted two kids who this woman is, you know, right here in America, not, you didn't even have to go to Haiti or Ethiopia, you know, there's.

581
00:42:19,105.0718899 --> 00:42:20,155.0718899
people here struggling.

582
00:42:20,165.0718899 --> 00:42:24,735.0718899
And, um, I, I just so happy to be reminded of that by you wonderful women.

583
00:42:25,235.0718899 --> 00:42:31,385.0718899
And, um, yeah, I'm thankful to be here and have, have to have had you had me here.

584
00:42:31,395.0718899 --> 00:42:32,125.0718899
So thank you.

585
00:42:32,215.0718899 --> 00:42:32,525.0718899
Yeah.

586
00:42:32,525.0718899 --> 00:42:33,305.0718899
Thank you.

587
00:42:33,315.0718899 --> 00:42:35,74.9718899
We appreciate all the messages that you've sent.

588
00:42:35,325.0718899 --> 00:42:46,205.0718899
That you've shared so thus far, um, Sarah, any thoughts? One of the quotes that I wanted to share today was from Oprah and she said, a queen is not afraid to fail.

589
00:42:46,485.07189 --> 00:42:48,635.0718899
Failure is another stepping stone to greatness.

590
00:42:49,295.0718899 --> 00:42:53,115.0708899
And just remembering that no one has arrived at the greatness.

591
00:42:53,135.0708899 --> 00:43:04,725.0718899
It's all a journey that we take one step at a time each day, lifting each other, helping each other, supporting each other as women, um, and honoring each other as the Queens we are.

592
00:43:05,450.07189 --> 00:43:06,310.0718899
Oh, I love that.

593
00:43:06,350.0718899 --> 00:43:07,420.07189
Absolutely love that.

594
00:43:07,420.07189 --> 00:43:08,380.07189
Gotta love that Oprah.

595
00:43:08,420.07189 --> 00:43:10,30.07189
I mean, I don't know if you could top that one.

596
00:43:10,30.1718899 --> 00:43:12,600.0718899
I know, right? Well, you're next, Lindsay.

597
00:43:12,610.07189 --> 00:43:13,40.07189
Yeah.

598
00:43:13,40.17189 --> 00:43:21,420.07189
Well, I don't have a quote, but um, I did think a lot about like the strong women like Oprah, Barbara Walters, like a lot of the women that just forged the path.

599
00:43:21,600.0718899 --> 00:43:21,850.0718899
Yeah.

600
00:43:21,890.07089 --> 00:43:30,620.0718899
And I, I'm always inspired by them and you think about their stories and A lot of what they've done is for, like, they've done it themselves.

601
00:43:30,620.0718899 --> 00:43:36,20.07189
They've, they've challenged and stepped above their own limits, and I think that's really inspirational.

602
00:43:36,160.0718899 --> 00:43:37,180.0718899
Pushed through that.

603
00:43:37,600.0718899 --> 00:43:38,40.07189
Yeah.

604
00:43:38,40.17189 --> 00:43:38,229.97189
Yeah.

605
00:43:38,230.07189 --> 00:43:40,580.0718899
In spite of anything that anyone told them they couldn't do.

606
00:43:40,710.07189 --> 00:43:41,70.07189
I love it.

607
00:43:41,70.07189 --> 00:43:42,600.0718899
You can't do this because you're a different color.

608
00:43:42,600.0718899 --> 00:43:43,980.07189
You can't do this because you're a female.

609
00:43:44,30.07189 --> 00:43:44,519.97189
They were like, yeah.

610
00:43:44,910.0718899 --> 00:43:45,480.07189
Yes, I can.

611
00:43:46,510.0718899 --> 00:43:46,950.0718899
And they did.

612
00:43:46,950.0718899 --> 00:43:48,90.07189
And that's very inspirational.

613
00:43:48,280.07189 --> 00:43:48,650.07189
Yeah.

614
00:43:48,660.0718899 --> 00:43:49,550.07189
I love that too.

615
00:43:49,760.0718899 --> 00:43:59,290.07189
One of my favorite mottos and, and kind of thoughts along those line, along those lines is, um, empowered women, empower women.

616
00:44:00,100.0718899 --> 00:44:06,70.0718899
And it, it really, you know, as we're going down the panel and we're listening to that, I'm like, yes, yes, yes, yes.

617
00:44:06,70.0718899 --> 00:44:16,955.0718899
And doesn't it just kind of fill you with, You know, we talked about the energy here and how palpable it is, right? And it's hard not to be overwhelmed with emotion, but it makes me want.

618
00:44:18,65.0718899 --> 00:44:22,595.0718899
Want to do even greater things to take that, to take this conversation.

619
00:44:22,605.0718899 --> 00:44:33,165.0708899
I mean, you're birthing babies, you know, you worked in LA and life coaches and Lindsay, I can't even pronounce like what your career is because you're just so freaking awesome.

620
00:44:33,780.0718899 --> 00:44:34,270.0718899
You do.

621
00:44:34,270.0718899 --> 00:44:49,530.0708899
And Jen, of course, with your voice and podcasting and JC too, like I need to figure out how to get as many followers as you for one, but you know, it's just a powerful group of women and the things that we can do when we're helping each other, I guess, is the point that I wanted to bring home.

622
00:44:49,750.0708899 --> 00:44:58,274.9718899
Jen, what did you have? Well, I've been thinking a lot about energy and just the energy that we bring to each situation and thinking about this, this, this.

623
00:44:58,675.07189 --> 00:44:59,645.07189
energy in the room.

624
00:44:59,745.0718899 --> 00:45:11,145.07089
If we could bring that energy to motherhood, to the world, that's the kind of energy that will lift others, that will empower us to do what we're called to do, or to help our children.

625
00:45:11,785.0718899 --> 00:45:14,305.0718899
I feel like that's just, we need more of that energy.

626
00:45:14,305.0718899 --> 00:45:20,435.0718899
So the more that we can celebrate women, the more that we can encourage each other, that will keep that energy moving forward.

627
00:45:21,405.0718899 --> 00:45:22,585.0718899
Yeah, I love that.

628
00:45:23,315.0718899 --> 00:45:31,985.0718899
Any final last thoughts from anybody? Yeah, I think what I sense is there's this beautiful quiet confidence.

629
00:45:32,655.0718899 --> 00:45:35,985.0718899
And I think that's such a gift that each one of you have.

630
00:45:36,255.0708899 --> 00:45:41,85.0718899
And because once you sit in that space, I think that's when we don't budge.

631
00:45:41,605.07189 --> 00:45:44,815.07189
on our boundaries, which is just a fancy word for our values.

632
00:45:44,845.07189 --> 00:45:52,805.07189
And if we stand to those values in that quiet confidence, we become better mothers, sisters, communities.

633
00:45:52,815.07189 --> 00:45:58,885.07189
And just around here, this is such a beautiful table, but this quiet confidence, it's not boastful.

634
00:45:58,895.07189 --> 00:45:59,825.07189
It's not ego.

635
00:46:00,245.07189 --> 00:46:03,165.07189
It's just sitting in your talents and your gifts.

636
00:46:03,165.07189 --> 00:46:04,345.07189
And you guys are remarkable.

637
00:46:04,345.07189 --> 00:46:06,25.07189
And I feel privileged to be here.

638
00:46:06,205.0718899 --> 00:46:06,635.07189
Thank you.

639
00:46:06,835.07189 --> 00:46:07,965.07189
Oh, thanks, Michelle.

640
00:46:07,965.07189 --> 00:46:08,215.07189
Yeah.

641
00:46:08,215.07189 --> 00:46:25,165.0708899
Amber, Um, I'm not going to say who it was because that might sway some people's opinions, but I heard a quote and I'm going to paraphrase it because I don't remember it, but it was basically, you cannot sit and listen to someone's story and get to know them and hate that person.

642
00:46:25,535.0718899 --> 00:46:30,135.0718899
You can't sit across from them and look them in the eye, hear their story, and then hate that person.

643
00:46:30,705.0718899 --> 00:46:32,595.0718899
And I just thought that's so true.

644
00:46:32,605.0718899 --> 00:46:46,445.0718899
Like us as women, Um, when we get to know each other, when we spend time with each other, when we hear your story, when we hear your history, when we hear where you've been and what you've been through, you can't help but love that person.

645
00:46:46,515.0718899 --> 00:46:52,595.0718899
And I think that's what we're experiencing here as well, is that we're hearing each other's stories and everyone here is different.

646
00:46:52,810.0718899 --> 00:46:59,190.07189
We might look a lot alike because some of us are blonde and some of you are blonde over here in the corner.

647
00:46:59,800.0718899 --> 00:47:01,410.0718899
But we're not, we're not alike.

648
00:47:01,590.0708899 --> 00:47:11,0.0708899
And so, um, not to judge people, you know, not to immediately just cast judgment on someone and get to know them because you will love that person.

649
00:47:11,400.0718899 --> 00:47:13,129.9718899
It's almost impossible not to.

650
00:47:13,680.0718899 --> 00:47:14,50.0718899
Yeah.

651
00:47:14,50.0718899 --> 00:47:14,580.0718899
That's so important.

652
00:47:14,610.0718899 --> 00:47:16,170.0718899
How powerful that is.

653
00:47:16,170.0718899 --> 00:47:28,770.0718899
And you know, I think along those lines is when you hear somebody's story, you can be very empathetic having gone through some of those situations or bits and pieces of that yourself.

654
00:47:28,770.0718899 --> 00:47:29,90.0718899
Right.

655
00:47:29,550.0708899 --> 00:47:49,385.0708899
So you become empathetic and, or sympathetic if you, you know, can relate, but haven't necessarily been through that same experience, but it, you At the very minimum allows you to get to know them and you can have compassion for their path because we're each on our own different path with our own backgrounds and situations.

656
00:47:49,925.0718899 --> 00:47:54,445.0718899
You know, living here, meeting in this room right now, having this awesome, powerful experience.

657
00:47:55,385.0718899 --> 00:48:01,145.0718899
And I'm just really incredibly grateful to each of you for taking the time to be here and share your messages.

658
00:48:01,155.0708899 --> 00:48:02,345.0718899
So thank you to you all.

659
00:48:03,375.0708899 --> 00:48:18,615.0718899
Um, before we wrap, I do want to get, um, and Blane can edit this part out, but I do want to get, if there's a, if we can find you on socials, if you'll just announce those, like where you're, where we can find you on your socials so that we can include them in the podcast.

660
00:48:19,625.07189 --> 00:48:21,24.9718899
You can't find me on social media.

661
00:48:21,25.0718899 --> 00:48:22,75.0718899
I know where to find you.

662
00:48:24,655.0718899 --> 00:48:25,275.0718899
Disclaimer.

663
00:48:25,275.0718899 --> 00:48:29,335.0718899
I am not an influencer, but it's at Amber Brooke Bennett.

664
00:48:29,745.0718899 --> 00:48:30,75.0718899
Okay.

665
00:48:30,145.07189 --> 00:48:31,35.0718899
Thank you, Amber.

666
00:48:31,355.0718899 --> 00:48:36,345.0708899
Um, my coaching is Michelle Orton, lowercase, real coaching.

667
00:48:36,575.0708899 --> 00:48:36,985.0708899
com.

668
00:48:37,55.0708899 --> 00:48:41,525.0718899
And I think my handle on Facebook is Michelle Orton seven.

669
00:48:41,675.0718899 --> 00:48:42,645.0718899
I don't, I'm not sure.

670
00:48:42,675.0718899 --> 00:48:43,935.0718899
Do you have your phone? You can pull it out.

671
00:48:43,985.0718899 --> 00:48:45,195.0718899
Oh, no, it's out there.

672
00:48:45,195.0718899 --> 00:48:45,465.0718899
Okay.

673
00:48:45,475.0718899 --> 00:48:45,845.0718899
So that's okay.

674
00:48:46,35.0718899 --> 00:48:47,235.0718899
Well, we'll, we'll, we'll find it.

675
00:48:47,255.0708899 --> 00:48:47,615.0708899
We'll post it.

676
00:48:48,205.0718899 --> 00:48:50,765.0718899
But I love the story thing that you said.

677
00:48:50,885.0718899 --> 00:48:52,675.0718899
I think that is so powerful.

678
00:48:53,105.0718899 --> 00:49:00,615.0718899
Um, because from the beginning of time, that's how people started to communicate is telling stories around a fire, on a wall, on a song.

679
00:49:00,895.0708899 --> 00:49:03,455.0718899
And you were in the film industry and we watch movies.

680
00:49:03,695.0718899 --> 00:49:05,875.0718899
Stories are powerful and they connect.

681
00:49:05,895.0718899 --> 00:49:08,115.0708899
And every one of us has such a beautiful one.

682
00:49:08,125.0708899 --> 00:49:09,655.0718899
Don't, don't hide your story.

683
00:49:09,955.0718899 --> 00:49:13,385.0718899
Share it because it will touch somebody and that's what's going to bring us closer.

684
00:49:13,645.0718899 --> 00:49:15,425.0718899
I think that was such a powerful point.

685
00:49:15,425.0718899 --> 00:49:16,555.0718899
So thanks for sharing that.

686
00:49:17,920.0718899 --> 00:49:28,520.07189
Amber, along with that, I just wanted to remind everyone that social media is a highlight reel and to, um, do have connections in real person.

687
00:49:28,530.0708899 --> 00:49:32,240.0718899
Like, I feel like this today is so amazing because it's in person.

688
00:49:32,550.0718899 --> 00:49:35,540.07089
And I think we forget that so much of things is online these days.

689
00:49:35,950.0708899 --> 00:49:38,150.07189
And being in person, there's something about it.

690
00:49:38,150.07189 --> 00:49:40,710.07189
There's true connecting and learning people's story.

691
00:49:41,30.0718899 --> 00:49:41,390.0718899
So.

692
00:49:41,700.0718899 --> 00:49:43,230.07189
Social media is a highlight reel.

693
00:49:43,425.07189 --> 00:49:45,750.07189
And it And what is your social media? Oh, yes.

694
00:49:45,750.07189 --> 00:49:49,140.0718899
Social media is at Life of a sister.

695
00:49:49,620.0718899 --> 00:49:51,540.07189
And, um, thank you again for having me.

696
00:49:51,780.07189 --> 00:49:52,740.07189
Yeah, thank you.

697
00:49:55,110.07189 --> 00:49:58,50.07189
My socials are at Made mindful on most of the platforms.

698
00:49:58,730.0718899 --> 00:49:59,210.0718899
Awesome.

699
00:49:59,215.0718899 --> 00:49:59,930.0718899
Thank you Sarah.

700
00:50:01,60.0718899 --> 00:50:02,140.0718899
I know where to find you.

701
00:50:02,140.0718899 --> 00:50:03,460.07189
Tell us again, Jen.

702
00:50:03,465.07189 --> 00:50:06,490.0718899
Yeah, Jen, tell us as for adversity.com

703
00:50:06,490.0718899 --> 00:50:07,840.07189
or at as for adversity.

704
00:50:08,320.0718899 --> 00:50:08,710.07189
Awesome.

705
00:50:08,710.07189 --> 00:50:14,135.0718899
And did you have any final thoughts as a host that you wanted to share or ask? No.

706
00:50:15,155.0718899 --> 00:50:19,235.0718899
Well, again, ladies, I, I do really, I know your time is very valuable.

707
00:50:19,265.0718899 --> 00:50:20,65.0718899
Each of you are just wonderful.

708
00:50:20,380.0718899 --> 00:50:27,150.0718899
Just amazing at what you do and, and thank you for sharing your, your message and I think we should do this again.

709
00:50:27,150.0718899 --> 00:50:30,960.0718899
I mean, Mother's Day is coming up, right? Well, let's all give a hand to our hosts.

710
00:50:30,960.1718899 --> 00:50:33,180.0718899
Hostesses Becks and Jen.

711
00:50:33,810.0718899 --> 00:50:34,250.0718899
Amazing.

712
00:50:34,590.0708899 --> 00:50:35,280.0718899
Thank you.

713
00:50:35,310.0718899 --> 00:50:37,700.0708899
I think the only edit is like, let's have some Kleenex.

714
00:50:39,955.0718899 --> 00:50:42,505.1052233
I was going to text him, but you're like crying on my face.